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Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:33 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:33 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Nothing to refute. AU engineers will continue to be in greater demand and make more money because they got a better education and did not attend a second rate school like UAT.
Results matter lil gump. AU grads make a lot more money than UAT grads because they get better educations.
Facts gonna fact. Proof is in the pudding. Etc.
Sorry. The facts are that Bama grads have much more sex with beautiful ladies that they aren't related to, even the female ones because sometimes that can be pretty hot. Bama grads are better looking and much, much less likely to be pricks on message boards (HINT: You didn't go to Alabama). Auburn grads smell like the bottom of a dumpster, probably because they post on message boards from the bottom of a dumpster that they call their "office."
Also, the fact is that you're fat.
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:35 pm to BamaNixon
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Alabama fans in this thread - "Alabama and Auburn are pretty close academically, and here is a link to a third party that says so."
A couple of idiots in this thread - "No, because A BUNCH OF STUFF I MADE UP."
Perfect summation of this thread
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:36 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Nothing to refute. AU engineers will continue to be in greater demand and make more money because they got a better education and did not attend a second rate school like UAT. Results matter lil gump. AU grads make a lot more money than UAT grads because they get better educations. Facts gonna fact. Proof is in the pudding. Etc
Auburn has a higher starting salary because they don't have majors like social work. Yeah, social workers don't make a lot of money. But, the country needs them, and so does the state of Alabama. In the past they've had more engineers graduate from the school. Engineers make the highest starting salaries for people with bachelor degrees usually. Can you follow this thought process? Auburn engineers aren't in greater demand. In the past, there has just been more of them. Good try at deflecting though. Auburn is on the decline. I thought we inflated our admission statistics? How do you explain UA having a larger engineering class with higher test scores? The REC?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:39 pm to TheGumpCard
Neither school is on the decline, stop being an idiot.
Both are benefitting greatly from an overflow of Georgia kids that started due to the HOPE scholarship and has continued as UGA has gained clout in places like Dallas, and Tech has gained clout among international students.
Oh, and Alabama HS students are probably getting better too as development is pumped into the state.
Both are benefitting greatly from an overflow of Georgia kids that started due to the HOPE scholarship and has continued as UGA has gained clout in places like Dallas, and Tech has gained clout among international students.
Oh, and Alabama HS students are probably getting better too as development is pumped into the state.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:40 pm to Pettifogger
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The fact that you're confusing an obviously qualitative system with a true quantitative one is
Now I know you are totally ill equipped to participate in this discussion. The US News rankings I'm referencing here, regardless of whether you place any stock in them whatsoever, are based on a quantitative system ascribing actual numbers to various measures. Whether you agree with the logic, weighting or whatever, it is a quantitative system. To be contrasted to the Pettifogger methedology "I don't know, probably 3x, or maybe 4x. Whatever, just ask someone in a law firm." I'm sorry I took you seriously, at first.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:43 pm to coachcrisp
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Son, I'm 66 years old and was born and raised in Tuscaloosa. I sold peanuts at Alabama football games when it was just Denny Stadium and Ears Whitworth was the coach (a term used loosely for him). I've drank whiskey and shot craps with Coach Bryant at Indian Hills Country Club and been around Alabama athletics for over a half a century.
You see, I've been an Alabama fan for a long time.
OK, I'll bite....if that is the case then hats off to you....
If that is the case, you would have to agree that Bama has one of the more mecurial fan bases out there...loyal to the program but outside of Bear and Saban not wedded to a particular coach....and yeah I am including Stallings in that one.....
and while it is pure conjecture if Saban had three shite years in a row like Bryant did, people would start considering a change
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:47 pm to BamaNixon
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Son, I'm 66 years old and was born and raised in Tuscaloosa. I sold peanuts at Alabama football games when it was just Denny Stadium and Ears Whitworth was the coach (a term used loosely for him). I've drank whiskey and shot craps with Coach Bryant at Indian Hills Country Club and been around Alabama athletics for over a half a century.
You see, I've been an Alabama fan for a long time.
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We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere - like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say.
Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
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Ummmmm......how does what you posted have something to do with my response to being called a "Saban-era fan"?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:48 pm to thatthang
USNWR is quantitative in the same way the AP poll is. Subjective data placed into quantitative form for the purpose of distribution.
Of course, there are true quantitative factors in the USNWR, but if we pretend the USNWR rankings are a study and look to the objective of this "study," they're almost all akin to qualitative research.
Of course, there are true quantitative factors in the USNWR, but if we pretend the USNWR rankings are a study and look to the objective of this "study," they're almost all akin to qualitative research.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:49 pm to thatthang
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Now I know you are totally ill equipped to participate in this discussion. The US News rankings I'm referencing here, regardless of whether you place any stock in them whatsoever, are based on a quantitative system ascribing actual numbers to various measures. Whether you agree with the logic, weighting or whatever, it is a quantitative system. To be contrasted to the Pettifogger methedology "I don't know, probably 3x, or maybe 4x. Whatever, just ask someone in a law firm." I'm sorry I took you seriously, at first.
Ugh. You're the worst. "Just ask anyone" is a perfectly logical, bullet-proof argument. Then, as a topper, when you actually DO ask anyone, and they disagree, all you have to do is give specious reasoning as to why they are wrong.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:50 pm to BamaNixon
It brings joy to me when two geniuses piggy back on one another. Such a bright future for Alabama.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:51 pm to coachcrisp
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Ummmmm......how does what you posted have something to do with my response to being called a "Saban-era fan"?
You see, back in those days, rich men would ride around in Zeppelins, dropping coins on people, and one day I seen J.D. Rockefeller flying by. So I run out of the house with a big washtub and... hey! Where are you going? Anyway, about my washtub. I'd just used it that morning to wash my turkey, which in those days was known as a walking-bird. We'd always have walking-bird on Thanksgiving, with all the trimmings: cranberries, injun eyes, yams stuffed with gunpowder. Then we'd all watch football, which in those days was called baseball...
This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:52 pm to Pettifogger
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It brings joy to me when two geniuses piggy back on one another. Such a bright future for Alabama.
And, this, my friends, is the sort of clever rejoinder that you too could come up with if you attend a top 16 law school. "YOU GUYS ARE GENIUSES...NOT!!!"
Hilarious. You should write for Sinbad.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:52 pm to Pettifogger
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Neither school is on the decline, stop being an idiot. Both are benefitting greatly from an overflow of Georgia kids that started due to the HOPE scholarship and has continued as UGA has gained clout in places like Dallas, and Tech has gained clout among international students. Oh, and Alabama HS students are probably getting better too as development is pumped into the state.
Auburn is on the decline, stagnant at best. UA is growing with quality and starting to overtake Auburn on things that are supposed to be their strengths. Auburn admits around 80% of their students? Yeah, they are just where they want to be. I hope Auburn's administration has the same mindset as you. Just sit back while Alabama takes over. Texas A&M graduates have a higher average starting salaries than UT-Austin graduates. Everyone knows UT-Austin is a better school though.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:53 pm to Pettifogger
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USNWR is quantitative in the same way the AP poll is. Subjective data placed into quantitative form for the purpose of distribution.
Of course, there are true quantitative factors in the USNWR, but if we pretend the USNWR rankings are a study and look to the objective of this "study," they're almost all akin to qualitative research.
This is not far from how I would put it, actually. And I almost brought up the BCS. I would call it a quantitative system with obvious flaws. Anyway, my point was it is quantitative when compared to what you have provided on this thread. Anyway, this is as close as we are going to agree on anything so I'm out.
Plus, I have to flip these burgers or I get in trouble.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:54 pm to BamaNixon
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You see, back in those days, rich men would ride around in Zeppelins, dropping coins on people, and one day I seen J.D. Rockefeller flying by. So I run out of the house with a big washtub and... hey! Where are you going? Anyway, about my washtub. I'd just used it that morning to wash my turkey, which in those days was known as a walking-bird. We'd always have walking-bird on Thanksgiving, with all the trimmings: cranberries, injun eyes, yams stuffed with gunpowder. Then we'd all watch football, which in those days was called baseball...
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:54 pm to thatthang
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Plus, I have to flip these burgers or I get in trouble.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:54 pm to TheGumpCard
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Auburn is on the decline, stagnant at best. UA is growing with quality and starting to overtake Auburn on things that are supposed to be their strengths. Auburn admits around 80% of their students? Yeah, they are just where they want to be. I hope Auburn's administration has the same mindset as you. Just sit back while Alabama takes over. Texas A&M graduates have a higher average starting salaries than UT-Austin graduates. Everyone knows UT-Austin is a better school though.
Even assuming Alabama did take over, that doesn't mean Auburn is on the decline unless you view the world solely through that prism, which I'm sure you do. Nonetheless, Auburn is improving, as is Alabama. Acceptance rates speak more to a popularity problem for Auburn than an academic performance problem. Look to the stats for incoming classes, which probably don't show much disparity.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:56 pm to 14&Counting
I agree and apoligize for calling you an idiot. The topic of this thread just pissed me off.
I remember folks calling Coach Bryant too old and Coach Stallings too conservative when everything didn't go exactly as they wanted.
I remember folks calling Coach Bryant too old and Coach Stallings too conservative when everything didn't go exactly as they wanted.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:56 pm to Pettifogger
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No offense, but Bama at 21 is CRAZY. Bama should put on a clinic for how they're doing this. Vandy probably places 3x as many students in big time jobs (hard to rely on any school's job data, anymore) and produces 3 or 4x as many federal court clerks. And they're only 5 spots ahead?
Whatever Bama is doing is clearly working, I just don't know how they (USNWR) justify it.
I won't argue that Alabama's law school is better than Vandy's which is generally considered one of the truly elite schools but I do think there is this pre-conceived idea that any lofty ranking is somehow illegitimate or a result of "gaming" the system. Alabama isn't the top law school in the South by any means but it is a damn strong school and one of the more competitive to get into of the large state law schools in the Southeast. It also places really well in rankings other than U.S. News and World Report.
I'm not familiar with this organization but it's just one example of a ranking with different methodology than U.S. News that apparently thinks rather highly of the law school.
FWIW
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This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:01 pm to Pettifogger
Some of it's a more generic reputation, I think. It sounds better to say, "I went to Vanderbilt" or "I went to Northwestern" than "I went to Alabama." It was less a question of regional vs national for me (granted, one advantage of going to a prominent Southern university is the Good Ol' Boys Network) than simply the quality of the education. If I wanted to be a SCOTUS clerk, I'd have gone to Virginia or one of the Ivy League schools, of course, or even Vandy (4 clerks in the past half-century or so to Bama's 2, but other schools leave both of them in the dust.) Hell, I could have gone to Bama to train to be a member of the SCOTUS itself, given that it has one of those to its credit, and a major one at that.
I honestly can't say what sort of success rates can be applied to Vandy or UNC or Bama grads trying to break into major firms in the large metro areas. But lots of people, like me, just want to be a successful lawyer somewhere, earning s good living and hopefully not being forced to choose between working for a Mob front or turning state's evidence.
I honestly can't say what sort of success rates can be applied to Vandy or UNC or Bama grads trying to break into major firms in the large metro areas. But lots of people, like me, just want to be a successful lawyer somewhere, earning s good living and hopefully not being forced to choose between working for a Mob front or turning state's evidence.
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