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re: Hot take: Stidham will be a better NFL QB than Murray

Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:27 am to
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:27 am to
Stidham will be a better pro because he is gonna get drafted by a great team and get to learn for a season or 2...

All draft boards have him being picked by either New England or San Diego in the 2nd-3rd round.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:26 am to
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I don’t necessarily think Stidham will be an all pro, I just think Murray is ridiculously overrrated.


I think Stidham was ridiculously restricted in Gus' elementary offense. He has the athleticism to do well, some NFL team will have to work with him to develop his timing and decision making, etc.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:18 pm to
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The only entire game I watched him was vs Alabama, and he absolutely did not look like a first round qb in that game.

I think he complete 61% of his passes, and as Clemson showed in the next game, Alabama's defense was not very good.


He only completed 51% of his passes that game, and after Bama went up 21-0, their defense never stepped foot on the field without at least an 18 point lead.

They were playing prevent and clock management. At that point, they stopped spying Kyler, and while that one Bama CB kept getting abused, Saban didn't really waiver from this. Since every time the offense got the ball, Tua scored, Bama's defense kept playing a vanilla and bend don't break defense. And even then, Bama dropped two easy INTs. Kyler wasn't really making many good reads. He truly was a video game all year against Big 12 defenses, one read and run to make something happen running, or a simple rollout and find someone open. Against Bama, especially in the first three drives when Bama's defense was trying assert dominance, Kyler wasn't handling the pressure up front well at all.

That being said, Kyler did hit a few throws and show some mobility that show some of his potential. At the same time, he has limitations that were seen against Alabama and these limitations are magnified on the next level. This could prevent him from reaching his potential. It's not any more complicated than that. I think people are so eager to mock "conventional thinking" about Kyler, but it should be considered.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11089 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 2:23 pm to
I think Kyler Murray will light it up in the NFL for a short period of time, and then they will get film on him and once they figure out how to scheme him then he'll get hurt because he is not built to take the pounding. It will be a short lived career for the young man.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 2:26 pm to
Really depends on where Stidham goes. If he can't get good coaching to correct what Gus did to him then he will not last in the NFL.
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 2:30 pm to
You’re an idiot
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 4:29 pm to
Disagree. Stidham played in HS what is basically track flag football. He is a prime example of a 7v7 QB. He can't process real D's. TM can.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29287 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 4:48 pm to
Can I go with neither....yeah I'm going with neither.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 4:49 pm to
Is there a reasonable example of a guy having clear "internal clock issues" who corrected it at some point in his career?
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 5:04 pm to
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He has the potential to be everything Russell Wilson is, IMO, if he can overcome his size and learn how to take a hit or two, but that's easier said than done. He absolutely has to learn how to get hit. The timing for the NFL demands it.



South Carolina played NC State the first two years he started.

You could see his accuracy in the first game he ever played.

We played Kyler Murray his first year at A&M. He made plays, but didn't wow anyone with his accuracy like Wilson had.

Wilson also has that knack Drew Brees has of somehow moving just a little bit so he can see the field. Some shorter qb's never learn that, it is kind of like going through your reads quickly enough, but this is only for short qb's.

I'm skeptical, but we'll see how it plays out.
Posted by 2nd and 26
Member since Aug 2018
163 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 5:12 pm to
He definitely wasn't a better College QB.
Probably because Gus and Auburn* can't develop players.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 5:13 pm to
Stidham can be solid in the right system and with the right coach. Murray will be a bust no matter what
Posted by 2nd and 26
Member since Aug 2018
163 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 5:15 pm to
Definitely didn't play in the right system at Auburn*.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10959 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Murray will be a bust no matter what


No matter what???? What a know-nothing clown.
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4117 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:37 pm to
After the Patriots drafted him, I feel much more confident now in my original prediction. What a great system for Stidham to develop in.
Posted by kp1728
Member since Apr 2019
18 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:43 pm to
I think Stidham will make a great NFL quarterback.The kid is bright and has the arm to make NFL throws
Posted by kp1728
Member since Apr 2019
18 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:46 pm to
He played behind a terrible line
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:47 pm to
When's the last time a 5'9" QB did anything in the NFL? 1960?

I like Murray, he was one of the best CFB QBs in the last decade, and maybe he can end up a decent backup or something but there's pretty much no chance he lives up to being a #1 pick.


Btw, ask him how much he enjoyed his first career start vs Auburn.
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