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re: Hope all of you NIL fricktards are enjoying the death of college athletics.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:47 pm to HunterDawg
Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:47 pm to HunterDawg
I keep saying this, but what is happening now was inevitable, absolutely guaranteed, once the ginormous money came into the sport. I knew it 20 years ago, but everyone was getting off on the big contracts.
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:49 pm to Quicksilver
Hunter,
You are in an SEC bubble here. For every fan of a top team who leaves the sport because their team goes from 10 wins to 8 will easily be replaced by fanbases who now have hope and will grow their fanbase because they can now compete. It was impossible for the vast majority of schools to compete with under the table money. When SMU tried they were given the death penalty and their fanbase was decimated. GT’s fanbase and many others were decimated by decades of losing to teams who were buying players. Now, with NIL, GT, as an example, has a transfer QB, Linemen, and NIL players we could never have before. And our season ticket sales are up as is the excitement. Heck, it took UGA 8 overtimes to beat a mid level ACC team. That’s because the middle teams talent is increasing and the top tier teams talent is decreasing.
The sport is strong and growing. Maybe you guys will realize one day that not having 40 years of the same 15 teams dominating is actually good for the sport.
You are in an SEC bubble here. For every fan of a top team who leaves the sport because their team goes from 10 wins to 8 will easily be replaced by fanbases who now have hope and will grow their fanbase because they can now compete. It was impossible for the vast majority of schools to compete with under the table money. When SMU tried they were given the death penalty and their fanbase was decimated. GT’s fanbase and many others were decimated by decades of losing to teams who were buying players. Now, with NIL, GT, as an example, has a transfer QB, Linemen, and NIL players we could never have before. And our season ticket sales are up as is the excitement. Heck, it took UGA 8 overtimes to beat a mid level ACC team. That’s because the middle teams talent is increasing and the top tier teams talent is decreasing.
The sport is strong and growing. Maybe you guys will realize one day that not having 40 years of the same 15 teams dominating is actually good for the sport.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:07 pm to Bigbens42
Then people need to quit whining about how they liked it better when they were student athletes. Nobody on any team outside of maybe Vanderbilt was recruited because of their GPA or standing in the community. They were recruited because of their talent on the field and to win games. Nobody should be surprised when they demand a piece of the pie. Do I like the direction, no. But it has been headed that way a while. Every school that put athletics before education can take some responsibility. But, never forget it was fan driven.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:09 pm to ArHog
That’s all Johnny Manziel wanted and people roasted him for it.
Note: please ignore all the other shite he did.
Note: please ignore all the other shite he did.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:28 pm to GooseSix
i mean, the market says they are. so they are.
sorry paying players is legal now
sorry paying players is legal now
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:34 pm to CoonassatTEXAS
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sorry paying players is legal now
This upsets the schools that won more games when it was illegal.
Bama can’t outcheat Tenner any more. OU can’t outcheat Texas.
Poor poors. They sad.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:38 pm to IT_Dawg
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Go back to the way it used to be, but give them a few more stipends with the scholarship, provide a fund that gives them a percentage of their gear sold after completing at least 2 years at the Univiersity, go back to transfers sit out a year unless graduated or their head coach leaves…and limit access to agents via certified by the ruling body
I like this.
And they can still get a Dodge Charger if they’re damn good.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:48 pm to tBrand
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Except the players weren’t receiving any of the golden eggs
For a kid with nothing but athletic ability and no way to pay for a college education... I'd say that scholarship was indeed part of that golden egg.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:05 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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How many kids from good families do you think there are to go around. What do you think the ratio is out there?
No. There always have been plenty of good kids not from our definition of "good families". Plenty over the years that chose an in-state school over bigger offers due to loyalty to the state and their neighbors. Or chose a bigger school and worked their butts off and waited their turn to start.
Even the good kids now can be influenced/corrupted by the money tossed around.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:19 pm to Darth_Vader
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NIL and the portal go hand in hand. The portal has created unrestricted free agency agency while NIL has created no salary cap. Both are unsustainable and are doing great harm to college football.
That also includes Darth Vader.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:35 pm to RunningJacket
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The sport is strong and growing.
Just because the North Avenue Trade School is recruiting a few players and was competitive in a rival game doesn't mean the sport is "strong and growing". I know that, now that Tech might be able to put some butts in the seats without giving away tickets and hotdogs, you think the sport is strong, but you're very, very wrong. Tech's won one ACC Championship this century, and that in a very weak conference with the exception of Clemson. Not because of lack of NIL or transfer portal but because these current players know nothing or care nothing about Tech's football history. They want to go where the big money is and it ain't at Georgia Tech. Let's talk when Tech finds/develops a few blue chip players and UGA or some other program in a real conference with real money buys them away.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:41 pm to PerplenGold
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go extinct.
I’d be ok with it. College sports should be played by kids attending the college.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:41 pm to RollTide1987
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I'd rather see less talented kids across the sport play for the school they committed to and let the spoiled prima donnas go straight to the NFL. Just overhaul it completely.
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I'm about to this point myself.
I wouldn't mind Alabama actually do that because Missouri and other schools will continue to go along using the NIL and the new transfer portal rule change.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:51 pm to concrete_tiger
Let the NFL create a minor league program, rather than using colleges to do it for them. Let colleges be institutions for higher learning and get the ghetto kids, who have no desire to learn, out of the schools and into minor league football programs.
I'd rather watch kids who are somewhat loyal to a school play for the school rather than kids who would transfer at the drop of a hat for a few more dollars. I think I'm a typical fan and I'm losing interest at a ever-increasing rate.
I'd rather watch kids who are somewhat loyal to a school play for the school rather than kids who would transfer at the drop of a hat for a few more dollars. I think I'm a typical fan and I'm losing interest at a ever-increasing rate.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:54 pm to RunningJacket
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The sport is strong and growing. Maybe you guys will realize one day that not having 40 years of the same 15 teams dominating is actually good for the sport.
Chicken’s progressive football fan account.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:05 pm to TrueLefty
Hunter,
You are exactly right. Decades of Auburn, Bama, UGA, FSU, and Clemson buying players has absolutely hurt the schools who tried to do the “student-athlete” thing. Thanks for making my point.
And what you suggest is what we are doing. We are now in a position to buy players whether from high school or the portal. It’s gonna take years to turn it around because as you said, players of today have no clue about the past. It took your team 40 plus years to get back to the Natty so there isn’t a worry about time. It’s true we are in a conference that makes less money but the ACC will implode soon, thank goodness. GT is positioned well for the BIG to get a team in the southeast who actually plays school. And we all know where the big money is right now and when the next TV contract comes up.
And even with how pitiful we have been and how dominant your team was in the bagman era, that era is over and it took 8 overtimes for you to beat a mid level ACC team.
You are exactly right. Decades of Auburn, Bama, UGA, FSU, and Clemson buying players has absolutely hurt the schools who tried to do the “student-athlete” thing. Thanks for making my point.
And what you suggest is what we are doing. We are now in a position to buy players whether from high school or the portal. It’s gonna take years to turn it around because as you said, players of today have no clue about the past. It took your team 40 plus years to get back to the Natty so there isn’t a worry about time. It’s true we are in a conference that makes less money but the ACC will implode soon, thank goodness. GT is positioned well for the BIG to get a team in the southeast who actually plays school. And we all know where the big money is right now and when the next TV contract comes up.
And even with how pitiful we have been and how dominant your team was in the bagman era, that era is over and it took 8 overtimes for you to beat a mid level ACC team.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:06 pm to Bigbens42
The arms race was coming on long before Saban and his arrival accelerated it even further.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:07 pm to HunterDawg
I agree, but the NFL has no interest in it. Nobody would watch minor league football, though. None of the other leagues have made it.
If Vegas could help fund it…
Our families had season tickets for decades. My wife and I bailed 20 seasons ago, it had gotten stupid even then. I refuse to pay for seat licenses and insane prices for shitty games like Akron and whoever.
But stadiums sell out and tv ratings go up. Nobody is changing anything. Id support a college or league that dared make the play, though. Intercollegiate sports played by kids interested in earning a degree… wild!
If Vegas could help fund it…
Our families had season tickets for decades. My wife and I bailed 20 seasons ago, it had gotten stupid even then. I refuse to pay for seat licenses and insane prices for shitty games like Akron and whoever.
But stadiums sell out and tv ratings go up. Nobody is changing anything. Id support a college or league that dared make the play, though. Intercollegiate sports played by kids interested in earning a degree… wild!
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:12 pm to RunningJacket
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right. Decades of Auburn, Bama, UGA, FSU, and Clemson buying players
You are cute thinking GT wasn’t doing the same. GT kids also went home to small towns and ran their mouths just like UGA kids…
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:52 pm to concrete_tiger
Come on. You think schools like GT and Vandy were buying players? So tell me why every signing day we had players flip on us if we were paying. Who the heck pays for 3 stars anyway. I know it’s easy to say but that’s not the reality. If we were buying players we sure would have had more than 4 or less 4 stars.
We have more 4 and 5 stars on our roster than ever before because we can now buy them. If we would have been buying them before you would have known. Now, do I believe Bobby Cremins gave Dennis Scott, Kenny Anderson, Stephon Marbury, and a few others a little something? Oh heck yes. And everyone knew it because we won.
We have more 4 and 5 stars on our roster than ever before because we can now buy them. If we would have been buying them before you would have known. Now, do I believe Bobby Cremins gave Dennis Scott, Kenny Anderson, Stephon Marbury, and a few others a little something? Oh heck yes. And everyone knew it because we won.
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