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Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:17 am to white beans
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:17 am to white beans
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Honest opinions on Tennessee Football
Will they ever be competitive again?
Yes of course they will, but they are not going to return to being a national powerhouse on a regular basis like some of their fans think they should be. They remind me a bit of Nebraska, a team with a rich illustrious history that plummeted off a cliff once their star died out and still haven't gotten the shine back. UT is a big boy football program in the southeast and has a lot going for it and is one of the top ~12 programs of all time, so it's silly to think they won't ever "be competitive" again. But they aren't ever going to see another decade like the 90s IMO, and in the modern era of CFB they aren't going ot be able to just traipse thier way to a title like neyland might have been able to. There are simply too many other good programs around.
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:29 am to VagueMessage
Make a thread about Tennessee, flagshippers pop in to make it all about backwater Arkansas who no one cares about.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:47 am to stomp
quote:If Pruitt can't do it, I don't know who can. Pruitt should know how to manage a program, and he damn sure knows how to evaluate talent and how to recruit it.
Honest opinion...
Pruitt will get UT back to SEC East contention but the build will be slow like Dabo at Clemson. If UT gives him time, stays out of the way and doesn't get derailed by that snake in the grass AD of his, the ceiling is high because Pruitt already has a championship pedigree and breathes football.
IMO, If Fulmer will get behind CJP and help him to be successful then UT can get back to being a serious competitor. It's going to take time and Fulmer/BOT/Fans really have no choice but to be patient. Because if this Pruitt hire doesn't pan out they will be back at the drawing board trying to find a HC.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:20 am to VagueMessage
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Oklahoma? The same Oklahoma that's been to three out of the five playoff games? The same one that wins 10–12 each year?
Yeah, the same OU who has as many playoff wins as my dog does.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:28 am to Tigerman97
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UTk made a living for years by cherry picking the top talent around them...Ohio, Kentucky, WV, Western Virginia, etc.
Their big ones were SC and NC during their heyday .... and Georgia of course.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:29 am to RT1941
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If Pruitt can't do it, I don't know who can
LOL. You mean the guy who has been a head coach 1 season in his coaching career? I think pruitt has major potential but to think there isn't an established, proven HC somewhere out there that could do better than pruitt is silly.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:05 pm to scrooster
Dan Brooks the DL Coach there for years signed great players out of the Carolinas for them. UT was very strong in the Carolinas
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:20 pm to Icoachfb
Yup Georgia fans love to claim our downfall is due to them taking back Georgia, but Clemson closing off the Carolinas has had a much larger impact on us.
Clemson is essentially using our blueprint that we had in the 90s. Dominate the Carolinas, pick some from Georgia, and pick the odd guy from California (although Tennessee recruited there much heavier than Clemson does), Florida, Tennessee, and Alabama.
Clemson is essentially using our blueprint that we had in the 90s. Dominate the Carolinas, pick some from Georgia, and pick the odd guy from California (although Tennessee recruited there much heavier than Clemson does), Florida, Tennessee, and Alabama.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:26 pm to WG_Dawg
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If Pruitt can't do it, I don't know who can
quote:Sure there's an established HC somewhere that could to better than Pruitt. But I think we can all agree that UT will have a serious problem hiring him.
LOL. You mean the guy who has been a head coach 1 season in his coaching career? I think pruitt has major potential but to think there isn't an established, proven HC somewhere out there that could do better than pruitt is silly.
My God, talk about silliness....their last coaching search was hilarious LOL. They had no chance at a proven HC and they damn sure won't if Pruitt fails to deliver.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:28 pm to sand mountainDvalues
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Yup Georgia fans love to claim our downfall is due to them taking back Georgia, but Clemson closing off the Carolinas has had a much larger impact on us.
Clemson is essentially using our blueprint that we had in the 90s. Dominate the Carolinas, pick some from Georgia, and pick the odd guy from California (although Tennessee recruited there much heavier than Clemson does), Florida, Tennessee, and Alabama.
Yes and you know its bad when Clemson is pulling guys like Amari Rodgers, Tee Higgins and Trevor Lawrence who all had very strong UT connections and would have gone to UT under someone like Fulmer. Butch Davis created such a toxic culture, that is scared away some of those guys.
Pruitt might get it done. He did pick off a highly rated LB in NC that Clemson was pursuing last year. TN as a state is producing more prospects than ever and the population of the state is growing. They can always mine the Memphis area.
UT has a lot of resources at its disposal, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them continue to improve under Pruitt.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:31 pm to RT1941
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If Pruitt can't do it, I don't know who can quote: LOL. You mean the guy who has been a head coach 1 season in his coaching career? I think pruitt has major potential but to think there isn't an established, proven HC somewhere out there that could do better than pruitt is silly. Sure there's an established HC somewhere that could to better than Pruitt. But I think we can all agree that UT will have a serious problem trying to hire him. My God, talk about silliness....their last coaching search was hilarious. They had no chance at a proven HC and they damn sure won't if Pruitt fails to deliver.
We deserve all the shite we get for that last coaching search but that was botched like a mofo from our previous AD. I think if pruitt is given a fair shake at it and it doesnt work out, when we move forward Fulmer atleast has enough respect in coaching circles for people to take a much more serious look than they did during our last search. Its insane to think of how different the last decade would have been if we would have hired someone besides Lane Kiffin. That was the beginning of this awful shitstormthat still hasnt fvcking ended.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:36 pm to CivilTiger83
VOLS essentially are responsible for Clemson’s success.
If Kiffin does not tell Tajh Boyd to look elsewhere, Clemson doesn’t take that pivotal step to ACC elites, and Dabo likely isn’t here today.
Just incredible lol
If Kiffin does not tell Tajh Boyd to look elsewhere, Clemson doesn’t take that pivotal step to ACC elites, and Dabo likely isn’t here today.
Just incredible lol
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:37 pm to sand mountainDvalues
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Yup Georgia fans love to claim our downfall is due to them taking back Georgia, but Clemson closing off the Carolinas has had a much larger impact on us.
Georgia produces more than double the amount of Blue Chip prospects than the Carolinas combined and perhaps your best recruiting class ever ('97) included 3 top 10 players from Georgia... Coleman,Grant and Lewis.
Don't know the percentage of your recruits from NC compared to Ga back in Fulmer's heyday but both CMR and KS put a dent in UT's talent base when they took over.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:42 pm to sand mountainDvalues
Well Brooks retired a couple years ago from Clemson and Carolina does well signing S.C. kids but IMO Brooks leaving was a major pick up for CU.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:55 pm to white beans
They will not be for a very long time. Landscape around Tenn has changed big time over the years and they have not kept up with the Georgia's of the world.If they win 6-7 games in 2019 Pruitt will be on the hot seat for 2020 as this has been a recurring cycle for the past 20 years at Tenn. I see it happening once again.Some guys are very good assistant coaches but do not make good head coaches even though they come from the Saban coaching tree, like Will Muschamp and James McElwain. Pruitt is a very good assistant coach.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:00 pm to sand mountainDvalues
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Yup Georgia fans love to claim our downfall is due to them taking back Georgia, but Clemson closing off the Carolinas has had a much larger impact on us
I haven't claimed that, but it's certainly a factor. Fulmer would get elite talent out of ATL, those title caliber teams in the late 90s were helped out massively by cosey coleman, jamal lewis, and a few others I can't recall from GA. It's only natural that once it became harder ot recruit GA (combined with TN's lack of a wide recruiting base in state) helped the slip.
I think on top of that though, the compeition around them simply got a frick ton better. The 90s were a glorious time for UT and probably the best block of time in your history outside of the neyland years. But honestly, the rest of the east was garbage for an entire decade aside form UF, who admittedly was also elite at the time. Your corssover rival bama was pretty pedestrian most of the 90s as well outside of a couple seasons in teh eraly 90s and then again in 1999. UT, for most seasons in the 90s, really only had UF to worry about. Even UF, on the flip side of hte coin, had an elite FSU to deal with so didn't have it near as easy. Compare that to modern days. Sure your coaches and talent aren't what they were in the 90s, but UGA and bama have elevated their station big time. SC and UK are occasionally really good. Even Vandy isn't the laughingstock pushover they used to be. AU and LSU were often lousy in teh 90s which is for the most part not true today as well.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:06 pm to WG_Dawg
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I haven't claimed that, but it's certainly a factor. Fulmer would get elite talent out of ATL, those title caliber teams in the late 90s were helped out massively by cosey coleman, jamal lewis, and a few others
Yep and it got so bad with Donnan that he hired that Ramsey idiot from UT in hopes of combat ing Fulmer's success on the recruiting trail.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:10 pm to RT1941
Not sure if Pruitt will get it done or not. He might or he maybe a flop. I do know this Dabo and Kirby were not proven Head Coaches and I think they are doing fine.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:21 pm to Icoachfb
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I do know this Dabo and Kirby were not proven Head Coaches and I think they are doing fine.
dabo was above average up til like year what, 7? of his tenure. It's not until the last ~3 years he's become elite. And kirby has a much easier situation to recruit to than pruitt. Being a first time HC isn't necessarily an indicator of failure, I mean Richt set the league on fire his first few years as a HC, but again he had an easier situation to recruit to than the UT of today.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:26 pm to sand mountainDvalues
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VOLS essentially are responsible for Clemson’s success. If Kiffin does not tell Tajh Boyd to look elsewhere, Clemson doesn’t take that pivotal step to ACC elites, and Dabo likely isn’t here today. Just incredible lol
I still think Dabo would have sold some other kid the following year at QB. Yes that was a fortunate break, but Dabo has proven himself year after year that he is able to get the best out of kids and develop them.
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