Started By
Message
re: Herschel Walker debuted for Georgia vs Tenn 40 yrs ago tonight
Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:20 am to Trojan1998
Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:20 am to Trojan1998
quote:
Henry is also already a better pro running back than Hershel was.
That would be debateable. I mean, maybe, but people don't realize that Herschel is the #12 all time all-purpose RB just ahead of Marcus Allen and just behind Barry Sanders. And if he had played the entire time in the NFL things MIGHT have looked a lot different, too. That said, it was his decision to go to the USFL. Hard to blame him for the money they were offering at the time.
1
Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:49 am to ScoggDog
I almost, ALMOST! Named my oldest boy Emmett Walker Jackson so he'd have the names of 3 great SEC backs. In the end, I just couldn't stomach naming him for a Gator.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:50 am to Cousin_Avi
Well you spelled Emmitt wrong anyway, so that would have been double stupid, I agree with you! 
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:06 am to DawgsLife
quote:
people don't realize that Herschel is the #12 all time all-purpose RB just ahead of Marcus Allen and just behind Barry Sanders
It's not that difficult to realize when you understand the era he played in and the fact that he was Georgia's offense for three entire years. When you include bowl statistics, Herschel Walker had over 1,000 carries in his career at Georgia. He had 994 carries in non-bowl games alone.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:10 am to RollTide1987
quote:
It's not that difficult to realize when you understand the era he played in and the fact that he was Georgia's offense for three entire years. When you include bowl statistics, Herschel Walker had over 1,000 carries in his career at Georgia. He had 994 carries in non-bowl games alone.
No. He wasn't referencing college football.
He was referencing all time NFL football. If you stretch that out to all time professional football, he jumps up even further. His first 3 prime years were USFL.
As he said... people dont realize.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 10:12 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:15 am to sand mountainDvalues
quote:
Lol what a schedule
Thank God we didn't have Georgia State and BYU on that schedule.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:19 am to meansonny
quote:
As he said... people dont realize.
It's most likely due to the fact that running backs are generally judged on how well they run between the tackles and how many yards they put up while doing it. Over 4,000 of those yards Herschel accumulated in the NFL were from catching balls out of the backfield.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:58 am to RollTide1987
quote:
It's not that difficult to realize when you understand the era he played in and the fact that he was Georgia's offense for three entire years. When you include bowl statistics, Herschel Walker had over 1,000 carries in his career at Georgia. He had 994 carries in non-bowl games alone.
Maybe you missed the part about all purpose yards? It wasn't just rushing. It was receiving, too. When you consider the average RB in the NFL has a career of around 3 or 4 years it's impressive that he was able to take the pounding he took and last as long as he did while remaining productive.
ETA
Just noticed you were talking about college, while I clearly was talking about his time in the NFL. If you notice the three letters in my post, "N" "F" "L" give this away. College stats do not help where they rank in the NFL for all purpose yards. I even referenced the post I was responding to that said "Pro running back" which is also a dead giveaway about the discussion.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:59 am to RollTide1987
quote:
Over 4,000 of those yards Herschel accumulated in the NFL were from catching balls out of the backfield.
Isn't that the whole point of ranking all purpose yards? To show more than just rushing yards? I thought that was the purpose. I mean Marcus Allen lived off receiving yards. He only had three 1,000 yard rushing years. Oh, look! he was inducted into the Hall of Fame.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 11:13 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:15 am to DawgsLife
quote:
Isn't that the whole point of ranking all purpose yards?
An overrated statistic if there ever was one. Running backs run the ball while wide receivers catch it. When a running back's stats flash on the screen during football games, their rushing totals are what's highlighted.
quote:
I mean Marcus Allen lived off receiving yards. He only had three 1,000 yard rushing years. Oh, look! he was inducted into the Hall of Fame.
He played 16 seasons and rushed for over 12,000 yards. When he retired he was one of the Top 5/10 prolific rushers in NFL history.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 11:23 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:20 am to RollTide1987
quote:
quote:
Isn't that the whole point of ranking all purpose yards?
An overrated statistic if there ever was one. Running backs run the ball while wide receivers catch it. When a running back's stats flash on the screen during football games, their rushing totals are what's highlighted.
Have you ever heard of a west coast offense?
It is brand new. I really think you should look it up. It will blow your mind all of the ways that a running back can be used.
quote:
quote:
I mean Marcus Allen lived off receiving yards. He only had three 1,000 yard rushing years. Oh, look! he was inducted into the Hall of Fame.
He played 16 seasons and rushed for over 12,000 yards.
Why do you think he played 16 seasons despite reaching 1000 yards on the ground 3 times? Hmm. How else could he add value to a team?
Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:25 am to meansonny
quote:
Why do you think he played 16 seasons despite reaching 1000 yards on the ground 3 times?
Because he was reliable and consistently rushed for 600-700 yards every season. When he retired he was was Top 5 all-time in rushing yards. He's since been passed by the likes of Edgerrin James, Marshall Faulk, Frank Gore, Jerome Bettis, and Adrian Peterson but when he retired he was right up there with Jim Brown, Eric Dickerson, Walter Payton, and Barry Sanders on the list. He also was 1985's NFL MVP and had a Super Bowl MVP to his credit as well.
Those reasons are why he's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 11:26 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:42 am to RollTide1987
quote:
Because he was reliable and consistently rushed for 600-700 yards every season.
600 yards a season RBs are a dime a dozen. now, if they can catch a football coming out of the backfield....that adds value. Honestly? I can't tell if you are just trolling or if you are serious.
They did not keep Marcus Allen on the teams for his rushing abilities. Sure it was valuable, but he was best known for his versatility.
Do you honestly believe that NFL teams are scouring players that average 600-700 yards rushing a year?
The NFL had 32 RBs that rushed for 600 yards last season alone.
ETA
Keep in mind that the NFL had 32 rush for 600 or more yards last year in an era in which the RB is not used as much. Marcus Allen played when the average RB had a greater role rushing.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 11:45 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:47 pm to I-59 Tiger
The GOAL LINE STALKER! The best running back ever, in college.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 5:25 pm to jangalang
I was there that evening. Brutally hot and humid night. Two safeties in that game which is extremely rare. Tennessee knew who was getting the ball in the second half but it was like death by a thousand cuts with Walker getting just enough yards for first downs to keep drives alive. His longest run I think was the Bates play.
Georgia kept riding Walker keeping the UT offense on the sideline. Finally, the dormant Tennessee offense came to life on their final drive taking the ball to inside the 5 yard line in the final minute. Trailing 16-15 with a FG able win the game, Tennessee kept feeding Glenn Ford UT's HS All-American RB from NC the ball as he was hurting a tired Georgia defense and draining the clock in the process. Ford got the ball and was heading into the end zone over right side as the ball was stripped and recovered by Georgia. The rest is history.
Glenn Ford only saw the field sparingly after that play as fumbles were a deep sin in the eyes of Johnny Majors. Ford transferred out at the end of the season. James Berry, the other HS All-American from MS and the father of Eric Berry, took over the TB carries for the season.
Georgia kept riding Walker keeping the UT offense on the sideline. Finally, the dormant Tennessee offense came to life on their final drive taking the ball to inside the 5 yard line in the final minute. Trailing 16-15 with a FG able win the game, Tennessee kept feeding Glenn Ford UT's HS All-American RB from NC the ball as he was hurting a tired Georgia defense and draining the clock in the process. Ford got the ball and was heading into the end zone over right side as the ball was stripped and recovered by Georgia. The rest is history.
Glenn Ford only saw the field sparingly after that play as fumbles were a deep sin in the eyes of Johnny Majors. Ford transferred out at the end of the season. James Berry, the other HS All-American from MS and the father of Eric Berry, took over the TB carries for the season.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 6:24 pm
Page 3 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News