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re: Heisman Trophy - Auburn’s Last Brag?

Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by auburnnyc94
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:59 pm to
No, we still have more undefeated seasons than y'all as well.
Posted by AU4real35
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:00 pm to
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Fact remains we would not have won last year if not for Tua. That kills your point


Really doesn’t because we aren’t talking about last year’s team. It’s this year I said that y’all would still be undefeated even if he wasn’t the qb.
Posted by texag7
College Station
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:00 pm to
frick aubarn
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:01 pm to
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frick aubarn


You upset?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:02 pm to
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How does that kill his point that Bama would still probably be undefeated this year if you remove Tua




Because we would not be undefeated at the end of the season. This team without Tua and with the other options would probably lose to Georgia, probably lose to Michigan and definitely lose to Clemson.

Tua is worth roughly 10-14 points against a Top 5 team compared to what we trotted out before. Maybe more.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 4:03 pm
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:02 pm to
Yes it does. Your entire premise was that Cam meant more to his team because without him, you would not have won the national championship. Same can already be said for Tua.

Point dead
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:03 pm to
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And would have lost (as we lost to Auburn) without our best QB of the last decade.


Y’all still lose to Auburn with Tua last year, so that doesn’t matter. Y’all are a better team with him, but point stands, y’all still are undefeated with him not starting.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:05 pm to
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Y’all still lose to Auburn with Tua last year, so that doesn’t matter.


Nah, we lost with Jalen and then looked awful the 1st half against Georgia just to have proof to show everyone how awesome Tua really is........for discussions like this.

Saban the GOAT
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:05 pm to
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Yes it does. Your entire premise was that Cam meant more to his team because without him, you would not have won the national championship. Same can already be said for Tua.


We lose at least 4 maybe 5 games without Cam, I think my point stands.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:06 pm to
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We lose at least 4 maybe 5 games without Cam, I think my point stands.





If the rest of our players were suckier and we were playing closer games and barely winning WITH Tua then we'd lose 4 to 5 games without Tua too.

Instead we have other good players and instead of just sort of beating the shite out of teams really, really beat the shite out of teams.

I'll take Door 2.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:07 pm to
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If the rest of our players were suckier and we were playing closer games we'd lose 4 to 5 games without Tua too


I’ll take that as conceding.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:08 pm to
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I’ll take that as conceding.


Conceding that 2010 Auburn had a suckier supporting cast than 2018 Alabama.......absolutely.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:08 pm to
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Y’all still lose to Auburn with Tua last year,

Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:11 pm to
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No, we still have more undefeated seasons than y'all as well.


Technically you are correct you have 12 undefeated seasons to our 11. We beat you at perfect(no losses no ties) seasons though 9 to 7.
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:11 pm to
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No, we still have more undefeated seasons than y'all as well.


That’s bullshite though. That is only true if you count seasons with ties as “undefeated” which is just tacky and disingenuous.

Take this out and your total is almost cut in half. That’s why no one brings it up very often.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:12 pm to
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Conceding that 2010 Auburn had a suckier supporting cast than 2018 Alabama.......absolutely.


It’s as simple as this, we all knew Cam was a great qb. As of right now it’s just speculation for Tua until he leaves such a talented supporting cast.
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:12 pm to
Your point about cam was refuted I feel no need to continue going in circles
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:12 pm to
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Y’all still lose to Auburn with Tua last year, so that doesn’t matter.


You can't be this dumb can you?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:13 pm to
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just speculation for Tua




Oh you
Posted by VVega
Alabama
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:13 pm to
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It’s as simple as this, we all knew Cam was a great qb. As of right now it’s just speculation for Tua until he leaves such a talented supporting cast.


That is just a laughable statement. The whole country disagrees with you.
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