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re: Has your headcoach underachieved, overachieved, or on par with expectations?

Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:33 am to
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1250 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:33 am to
Sark has underachieved. That losing streak was brutal last season. So many games we shouldve won and we pissed down our leg in the 4th Q.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5884 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:36 am to
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Shane Beamer - On Par - He wins some and loses some. That's about what we all expected.


Beamer has overachieved. He won more games last year than the previous two years combined. It's difficult to really explain just how bad Carolina was left by Muschamp/Bobo, as was evident with starting 4 different QBs last year.

That the Arkansas game last week was even remotely competitive in the second half is honestly pretty impressive. He's got a lot to learn regarding game day management, and he trusts some coaches more than he should, but we're, in all, pleased with how he's been.

He'll lose this weekend due to sheer lack of trenches, and that takes time to build. But he's been a great recruiter here in the past, and is showing to be doing well again, and I think you'll see some noise in years 3-4.

7-5 is likely ceiling this year, but even still, that's shitloads better than what he inherited.
Posted by Reservoir Ag
Member since Dec 2020
3572 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:11 am to
Agreed, I think Josh has WAY over achieved at Tennessee and has y’all on a solid path.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21208 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:11 am to
Arkansas went into the fourth quarter 35-16. Arkansas wasn't trying to score anymore but run out the clock.

Arkansas left 17 points off the board. A missed field goal, an easy TD that was dropped in the end zone and a fumble recovery that had the defender not touched his knee to the ground would have been another TD.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:14 am to
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Clark Lea - Overachieved - Vandy is playing hard and getting better and it shows.



Way too early to tell. Hawaii is a dumpster fire, and they gave up 31 points to Elon. A 20 point lost to Wake Forest doesn't signify improvement to me.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 11:40 am
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24976 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:16 am to
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Nahhh, its obviously an extremely small sample size, but rolling out such an under prepared shite show on special teams against FSU cost us a win. Underachieved


It’s really dependent on what you think the W-L column for LSU should be this year.

If you think LSU is a 10-2 team this year, then yes, underachievement so far.

If you think LSU is a 7-5 team, then we’re on par.

If you think LSU is a 4-8 team this year, then we’re overachieving.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:18 am to
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Agreed, I think Josh has WAY over achieved at Tennessee.



How so? 24 point loss to Florida, 28 point loss to Alabama, and 24 point loss to Georgia. Overachieving is winning one of those three. Beating Missouri and Vandy isn't overachieving, nor a 3 point win over Kentucky...certainly not WAY overachieving. Winning in OT at Pitt is nice, but I'd pump the brakes a bit.
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
2540 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:21 am to
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I wasn’t crazy about the hire, to be honest


Nor was I. Especially after the first season. We lost 3 games we should have won, and looked terrible against Nichols St. I wanted all of them fired after the Vandy loss and that bonehead call Kirby made on 4th and inches that cost us that game. Season #2 made me a believer.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260216 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:22 am to
To be determined. 2 games in.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
6145 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:26 am to
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Billy Napier - On Par - Not much to judge by this point but he's also low on talent.

Brian Kelly - On Par - The loss to FSU was predictable but the way that LSU fought back to have a chance to win is a testament of wins to come.

Too soon to make any judgement on either.
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Shane Beamer - On Par - He wins some and loses some. That's about what we all expected.


I'd say last year, given his QB situation, he overachieved a bit. Year 2 seems to be on par so far.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5884 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:41 am to
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Arkansas went into the fourth quarter 35-16. Arkansas wasn't trying to score anymore but run out the clock


I said remotely competitive in the second half. Carolina was down 21-16 with the ball late in the third.

What I said was accurate.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15816 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:44 am to
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How so? 24 point loss to Florida, 28 point loss to Alabama, and 24 point loss to Georgia. Overachieving is winning one of those three. Beating Missouri and Vandy isn't overachieving, nor a 3 point win over Kentucky...certainly not WAY overachieving. Winning in OT at Pitt is nice, but I'd pump the brakes a bit.



So Heupel didn't over achieve in year 1 with less scholarship players than any team in the country because he didn't beat either of the 2 teams that played in the National championship?

That sounds completely reasonable and like a well thought out, nuanced take.
Posted by Between TheHedges
Message Board Genius
Member since Aug 2022
3721 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:48 am to
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How so? 24 point loss to Florida, 28 point loss to Alabama, and 24 point loss to Georgia. Overachieving is winning one of those three. Beating Missouri and Vandy isn't overachieving, nor a 3 point win over Kentucky...certainly not WAY overachieving. Winning in OT at Pitt is nice, but I'd pump the brakes a bit.
you sound scared
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18096 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:45 pm to
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Way too early to tell. Hawaii is a dumpster fire, and they gave up 31 points to Elon. A 20 point lost to Wake Forest doesn't signify improvement to me.


I agree with way too early but I wanted to throw something out there.
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