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re: Has UGA clinched the East?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:15 pm to meansonny
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:15 pm to meansonny
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Conference championship game losers dont move on.
Every situation/year/context is different. And in the case of 2019 LSU, the above is absolutely incorrect.
12-1 LSU with loss to UGA in SECCG is 100% in the playoff with its 4 Top10 wins that cant and won’t be matched by any other playoff contender at that point in time.
The ESPN guys discussed this tonight, and all said it’s a certainty that 12-1 LSU would be in.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 10:22 pm
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:18 pm to WG_Dawg
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If we win 1 more game we've clinched the east. So no not yet, but it's a near certainty we will.
Almost as certain as beating SC
Posted on 11/13/19 at 5:46 am to JPLSU1981
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ESPN guys
And they are never wrong.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 5:50 am to 3rddownonthe8
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You don’t have a mulligan... LSU needs to stop thinking that..
Says some random idiot on a message board. Most experts think otherwise.
Don’t quit your day job baw
Posted on 11/13/19 at 5:57 am to meansonny
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Conference championship game losers dont move on.
Different time and era, but didn’t Oklahoma lose their conference championship game prior to playing in the 2003 national championship?
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:49 am to 3rddownonthe8
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by the way LSU has to win twice to lock it up
Yes we know, but with Ole Miss, Arkansas, and A&M left we should be fine unless Ole Miss gets chop blockey.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:52 am to ibldprplgld
If UGA wouldn’t have lost to the chickens ?? and be undefeated Bama would definitely be out. I’m pulling for them to spank Auburn and hope Auburn can hold off Bama. I don’t want to play them again. It’s hard to beat a team twice doesn’t matter who you are.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 7:09 am to LSUNV
It's funny so many here putting so much stock into the "experts" on ESPN. You need to realize those people are paid to tell you waht to think and entertain you, not to give you the best sports coverage possible. Kirk herbstreit and his ilk are irrelevant to this anyway, you know who is relevant? The committee, ya know the ones actually making the decision. And we have a clear track record of how they decide see here
believe it or not there is precedent for waht is being discussed. In 2015 Iowa was undefeated and clearly in the playoffs when they played the Big10 CCG against a 1-loss MSU. MSU won so both teams were 12-1 with MSU having the conference title; they went ot the playoffs and Iowa finihsed 5th.
Let's assume that things play out like disucssed and a 1-loss UGA beats LSU in teh title game. I think it's also a relatively safe bet that Clemson and OSU will represent their conferences as champions. That's 3 spots (a 1-loss SEC champion UGA is a lock) off the bat with the 4th spot going to one of:
12-1 Oklahoma, Big 12 Champs
12-1 Oregon, Pac12 Champs
12-1 LSU, non champ
I fully realize that LSU would smoke either of those teams and is very likely the best team in the country. This has nothing to do wiht "eye test" or "who would win if they played". I'm saying that the ocmmittee has a proven record of how they operate and to date they have literally never put in a non-champion over a conf champ wiht less than 2 losses. Although I think LSU would be the better team, I don't know if the committee is going to tell OU/Oregon that despite having the same record and winning their conference they're getting left out. If the east was won by a team with like 3 losses and pulled some upset of LSU, I can very easily see the east/sec winner being left out and LSU still going. But with UGA already in in this situation I don't see the committee putting in 2 sec teams.
believe it or not there is precedent for waht is being discussed. In 2015 Iowa was undefeated and clearly in the playoffs when they played the Big10 CCG against a 1-loss MSU. MSU won so both teams were 12-1 with MSU having the conference title; they went ot the playoffs and Iowa finihsed 5th.
Let's assume that things play out like disucssed and a 1-loss UGA beats LSU in teh title game. I think it's also a relatively safe bet that Clemson and OSU will represent their conferences as champions. That's 3 spots (a 1-loss SEC champion UGA is a lock) off the bat with the 4th spot going to one of:
12-1 Oklahoma, Big 12 Champs
12-1 Oregon, Pac12 Champs
12-1 LSU, non champ
I fully realize that LSU would smoke either of those teams and is very likely the best team in the country. This has nothing to do wiht "eye test" or "who would win if they played". I'm saying that the ocmmittee has a proven record of how they operate and to date they have literally never put in a non-champion over a conf champ wiht less than 2 losses. Although I think LSU would be the better team, I don't know if the committee is going to tell OU/Oregon that despite having the same record and winning their conference they're getting left out. If the east was won by a team with like 3 losses and pulled some upset of LSU, I can very easily see the east/sec winner being left out and LSU still going. But with UGA already in in this situation I don't see the committee putting in 2 sec teams.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 7:11 am
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