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re: Has Steve Spurrier been a failure at SC?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:59 am to Crimson Legend
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:59 am to Crimson Legend
That is true, wonder how many times they heard about ND as well
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:00 am to tduecen
No.
I think he's been pretty pretty pretty good.
Larry David style.
I think he's been pretty pretty pretty good.
Larry David style.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:04 am to tduecen
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65-37 record overall
35-29 SEC play
1 SEC Championship game experience
2-4 in bowl games
He came back into SEC same time as Les, so Spurrier has had 8 years to build the
Are you a retard? Have you seen the history of USCe before he came?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:14 am to GenesChin
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@TennesseeBeat: Most coaches here are in suits. Steve Spurrier just walked by in jeans, a polo, sunglasses and sweatshirt draped around his shoulders. #NFF
Like a Boss
Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:17 am to GenesChin
We were a sub .500 all time team before he came here. 6-6 to 7-5 was the norm. We would usually beat UK and Vandy, win some non-con games, pick off one of the Mississippi schools on occasion and generally we lost to Clemson, UGA, UT, and UF. The UT and UF games were generally not competitive.
Spurrier has built the program to a point where 8-9 wins a season is the baseline. I would call that a sustained success. I think his biggest success came not on the field, but convincing the school administration to spend millions on athletic facilities and renovations around campus and the stadium. Anybody who has been to Williams Brice this year vs. the year 2000 can tell you there is a substantial difference. The commitment to these things helps keep kids at home, whereas in 2000 they would go off to UGA, Clemson, and Tennessee. They aren't doing that nearly as much these days. That's the key to winning at SC, keeping the high school talent home.
Spurrier has built the program to a point where 8-9 wins a season is the baseline. I would call that a sustained success. I think his biggest success came not on the field, but convincing the school administration to spend millions on athletic facilities and renovations around campus and the stadium. Anybody who has been to Williams Brice this year vs. the year 2000 can tell you there is a substantial difference. The commitment to these things helps keep kids at home, whereas in 2000 they would go off to UGA, Clemson, and Tennessee. They aren't doing that nearly as much these days. That's the key to winning at SC, keeping the high school talent home.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:44 pm to SmackoverHawg
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SmackoverHawg posted: GameCOCK football is at it's all time high. Enjoy it while you can. Once he retires and y'all go back to complete shite, you will fully appreciate the miracles he has performed with your turd of a program. Top ten 2 years in row is failure? At USCe? GTFO!
I don't know what Gamecock fan you were directing that at prior to your post you dumb frick - but I guess the same could be said about Arkansas once Petrino boned the volleyball player and tossed her off the back of his bike.
In the meantime, Spurrier is signed through 2017 and still going strong in every aspect of his game, from coaching to recruiting and, most importantly, managing the football program like a CEO should. He's built an outstanding staff, tons of depth, sparked facility upgrades that are second to none ... so, to the OP, it was a stupid-assed question to begin with.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:47 pm to scrooster
BTW, we were a sub 500 team because of what that fricking fat bradstard scott did to us when he arrived from Florida State. That scumbag almost single-handedly destroyed our program in five years. We were in every bit as bad, or worse, shape that Tennessee is and Ole Miss was - except, unlike Tennessee, we had no tradition to rebuild upon.
Holtz saved us in that regard. Spurrier has taken it to the next level.
We've always had the money and the fan support, but now we have the coach and we are keeping our big time players from this state home rather than allowing all of them to go elsewhere.
Holtz saved us in that regard. Spurrier has taken it to the next level.
We've always had the money and the fan support, but now we have the coach and we are keeping our big time players from this state home rather than allowing all of them to go elsewhere.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:54 pm to JDM1992
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JDM1992 posted: Spurrier has been an enormous success at South Carolina. Do you realize how many great coaches have gone there and fallen on their face? It's the most difficult job in the country for some reason.
It used to be ... it used to be.
The reasons were clear.
We had piss poor leadership at the top, often meddling within our own hierarchy from the school President to the Board of Trustees - they were our own worst enemies.
South Carolina, as part of the ACC, had to deal with Clemson's bullshite and the ACC's bullshite for a couple of important decades. We got tired of it and bailed on the ACC and told them to shove it up their collective asses.
As an independent for twenty years, we had our spurts, including the Joe Morrison and Jim Carlen eras where we produced a Heisman and we actually contended, late in the season, for a MNC. But then came the SI steroid scandal bullshite and we were knocked back down.
Not long afterwards came the SEC, more than twenty years ago now ... and it has been a long arduous climb. We're winning the battle now and we will maintain relevance from this point forward. The hard part was getting over the hump.
Additionally, our population base is growing so fast that this state is fast becoming one of the top, per capita, producers of DI talent in the country and we are taking advantage of that. We always produced a handful of All-American caliber athletes, but these days we're producing more and more and we are owning the instate talent battles.
We've beaten Clemson four years in a row now. That means when a kid was 12 he started following Carolina, he's sixteen now and about reading to start progressing towards and offer and he's a Gamecock/SEC fan all the way. It is the natural progression of things.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:54 pm to RebelNutt48
he has not been a failure if you are aware of the decades of frustration for that program. his record only compared to les miles, saban or meyer makes him look mediocre but he is not.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:58 pm to Katy Tiger
yep, the bar was set incredibly low as USCe has next to 0 of a football legacy... Simply winning the East solidifies him as a success.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:59 pm to tduecen
Do yu remember SC football prior to Spurrier?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:00 pm to tduecen
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Spurrier has been a disappointment in a sense only making it to 1 SEC championship game and 0 BCS games in 8 years. His "rebuilding" isn't as bad as some believe as Holtz had a good run before him.
After appearances by N.Illinois, UConn, and Hawaii I don't think simply making a BCS bowl carries too much weight anymore. Under Spurrier we have finished ahead of several BCS-appearing teams before but didn't get there ourselves simply because of the depth of the SEC.
As to making it to the SEC title game.. do you really want to start another schedule argument? We are 14-2 in the last 3 years against the East, and that's the best mark in the East. To have only made it to the SECCG once is unfortunate sure, but we have had the best team in the East for the last 3 seasons.
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Sidney rice was a holtz signee as he was REd shirted in 04
I'm aware but he only played under Spurrier. You're kidding yourself if you think Rice would have had near the #s under Holtz's old school "run-run-run-punt" offense.
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:11 pm to LSU GrandDad
SS came into Carolina with a near empty shelf to build out of. Holtz did great with what he had and was mildly successful, but Spurrier did what no one before him had been able to do. He changed the culture and attitudes of the school and fanbase. Unlike LSU, Bammer, Fluriduh, and jawja... there was no tradition to build on... minus clemsux(whom are becoming irrelevant) Miles, Saban, Richt, and Muschamp had a much easier road for their school because of history than Spurrier did.
Not taking away anything the other coaches have done for their respective schools... But Spurrier has built a great foundation that can be built on for years.
Not taking away anything the other coaches have done for their respective schools... But Spurrier has built a great foundation that can be built on for years.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:16 pm to tduecen
Spurrier has the SC program at an all-time high... Definitely NOT a failure.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:26 pm to tduecen
lolz
Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:33 pm to tduecen
I'm sure it was already written on this thread, but Spurrier has not been a failure at USC.
He has not won the MNC, or SEC, but he has had more success in his tenure than anyone at USC has had before.
Over the past 3 years we've finally started to win a lot of games, go to better bowls, at least played for the SECCG, beat many ranked teams and there is a HUGE list of other program firsts under his leadership.
We've had good coaches in the past like Dietzel, Morrison, and Holtz, but none have have had success at this level like Spurrier.
We're lucky to have him and hopefully he'll be around until he wins a SEC/NC.
He has not won the MNC, or SEC, but he has had more success in his tenure than anyone at USC has had before.
Over the past 3 years we've finally started to win a lot of games, go to better bowls, at least played for the SECCG, beat many ranked teams and there is a HUGE list of other program firsts under his leadership.
We've had good coaches in the past like Dietzel, Morrison, and Holtz, but none have have had success at this level like Spurrier.
We're lucky to have him and hopefully he'll be around until he wins a SEC/NC.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:14 pm to RollTide1987
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Lou Holtz really doesn't get enough credit for what he did at South Carolina. They went from 0-11 in 1999 to 8-4 in 2000 to 9-3 in 2001. Yeah...he had two back to back losing seasons in '02 and '03 but he had successfully stabilized that program. Spurrier walked into a gold mine in 2004/2005 compared to what Holtz walked into in 1998/1999.
It's good to see someone who knows the situation enough to realize this. Even many Carolina fans don't give Lou the credit he deserves.Not to mention He has been friends with Spurrier and helped bring him to Carolina. I'm not Spurrier would have been interested before Holtz laid the ground work and showed that a good coach could win at Carolina.
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:31 pm to ClintonGamecock
It has been well-documented, and I totally 100% agree, that were it not for Holtz we would have been ruined after Brad Scott. Holtz bailed-us-out and stabilized us in order to hand it off to Spurrier.
All I can add about that is thank the Good Lord that Lou did not get his way and install Skip as the HC upon his departure. Better yet, the Good Lord and Mike McGee.
All I can add about that is thank the Good Lord that Lou did not get his way and install Skip as the HC upon his departure. Better yet, the Good Lord and Mike McGee.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:32 pm to tduecen
He's not the only one.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:47 pm to nc14
His impact on the program is immeasurable. As someone else pointed out, he has worked w/ the administration to provide huge upgrades to the facilities and should leave us in an excellent position to maintain success once he retires.
I rode w/ a group of UGA fans up to the game this year. First time they'd been to Williams-Brice in 5 years. They couldn't believe the changes (nor could I, even from the previous year).
I rode w/ a group of UGA fans up to the game this year. First time they'd been to Williams-Brice in 5 years. They couldn't believe the changes (nor could I, even from the previous year).
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