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re: Has NIL actually changed the landscape of recruiting or just revealed reality?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:05 am to StringedInstruments
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:05 am to StringedInstruments
We were the only one, along with SMU whoever paid a dollar to any player ever prior to NIL.
None of our payments were market based.
None of our payments were market based.
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:16 am to CapstoneGrad06
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You still have to build a program.
Not really. You have to have a "program" that can navigate the "player for hire" section of the Portal. Most of which are on a 1yr deal.... which really just makes them mercenaries.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:29 am to SouthernInsanity
Yep. Maybe 1 in 100 of these kids gives a shite about the school.
You'd have to be a sucker to get emotionally invested in any of them.
You'd have to be a sucker to get emotionally invested in any of them.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:37 am to StringedInstruments
It has completely changed recruiting. You have to pay kids to visit, and they want to know all about the NIL package before even discussing the scheme, how they fit in, etc.
It's a complete shite show
It's a complete shite show
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:37 am to StringedInstruments
The money was nowhere near what it is now because there was the NCAA AND the IRS you had to hide it from. When there are potentially federal crimes of underreporting income, that really puts a cap on how much you can funnel to a family before the IRS asks how a family with 50k income lives in a million dollar home. Too many bad things could happen to all parties involved if they were throwing a couple million at a QB to play. Also people can now use money paid for NIL as a deduction given it is properly set up.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:28 am to StringedInstruments
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Has NIL actually changed the landscape of recruiting or just revealed reality?
NIL has dramatically shifted the mindset of 16-18 year olds, I can tell you that.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:29 am to StringedInstruments
NIL is hated by the blue bloods. Hmmm, wonder why?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:34 am to SouthernInsanity
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which really just makes them mercenaries.
Exactly. It’s minor league free agency (think G League not NBA).
There may be a couple of schools who can afford to keep throwing serious $$$ @ HS kids (look at this year’s top 5). But even that’s showing some cracks.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:35 am to VolSquatch
quote:This ^^. Some programs truly don't know the difference and are still playing the bag game to the detriment of their NIL collectives. Bag men get zero ROI other than the personal satisfaction of knowing "player X" is at their school in part because of them, but the truly smart ones can't even really brag about it to their friends. That same money would be put to better use as a donation to a legit collective or for the true BMD's with businesses to run, endorsement deals for certain star players.
Nah, I think you've got the shady guys that were always paying plus a bunch of new "by the book" people.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:45 am to StringedInstruments
Some schools were allowed to skate around the rules more than others.
Shoebox full of cash could get you a player.
Now days it’s more of an open marketplace.
Shoebox full of cash could get you a player.
Now days it’s more of an open marketplace.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:08 am to StringedInstruments
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I’m not saying NIL hasn’t given the bag man a heavy dose of steroids, but it seems naive to think this hasn’t been going on behind the scenes for decades.
it being frowned upon provided cover...lots easier to hide $10,000 than #1 million. The folks who used to facilitate the pay outs could claim "it would be more but we just can't hide more right now...maybe later" and it rang true because the recipients saw the $10K in hand. Now that its legal and above board and consists of a wire transfer and not a bag full of cash the amounts have increased accordingly. My question is for how long? The lower amounts in the past also provided cover for coaches and administrator to limit access..."You want to call plays because you gave that kid $10K??? Get the frick outa here". If the "donor" became pissed what were they gonna do, litigate it> Now that is open and the amounts are higher of course they will litigate it...gaining access because you have the cash and the lawyers is going to be a problem for programs going forward...donor egos have always been an issue but they are going to expect far more access and have been handed far more leverage than they have ever had before...
Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:29 am to StringedInstruments
I think the biggest difference will be for the NCAA whipping boys like Ole Miss. In the past, whenever we've played the same game as Bama and Georgia and started to get some momentum, the NCAA has used us to make an example so they could pretend they had some integrity. Now that it's above board, you're going to see those programs making some moves they weren't allowed to make in the past.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:35 am to beth(beth(omega))
Completely agree. The college football mafia is crumbling.
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