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re: Has Kirby Smart passed Spurrier? I say ....
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:06 pm to CoachDon
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:06 pm to CoachDon
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GA fans just can't leave well enough alone. You're turning into the LSU fans, who, for some reason, feel like they have to defend their 2019 team vs. the 2023 GA team.
This is all hyperbole and chest thumping frickery.
You can;t compare coaches like Spurrier and Kirby with wins and losses. It's fricking apples and oranges. Literally. The more you dumb arse GA fans push this retarded argument, the worse you look.
Seriously.
I'm sorry for suggesting that if Kirby won two more and had four national championships, that would put him above a coach with one.
I didn't say he will do it. Of course, I can hope can't I? Or is that wrong too?
Are Saban and Spurrier apples and oranges?
Dabo and Spurrier?
Carroll and Spurrier?
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:06 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Translation: Spurrier changed the game off football, and that will ALWAYS make him a better coach until Kirby does the same.
By that logic Hal Mumme is the best coach who ever shat between a pair of brogans and it ain't close. Innovation and coaching are not the same thing....changing the game is not a measurement of success as a coach, winning and losing is. Smart wins more and loses less than Spurrier, especially in games of importance.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:06 pm to AwgustaDawg
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He is a far better coach than Spurrier
Dude, really? It's not coincidental that Dabo didn't win his first Championship until AFTER Spurrier retired....
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:08 pm to lsufball19
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He was like 70. I’d say that’s pretty old
Not for the Ol Ball Sack
You just don't know Spurrier.
He was obviously in the best shape a 70 year old can be physically.
So it must have been something else.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:10 pm to AwgustaDawg
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changing the game is not a measurement of success as a coach
Umm, yes it is. It's just not the one you're choosing to use because it doesn't favor your coach.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:30 pm to Lonnie Utah
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changing the game is not a measurement of success as a coach
Umm, yes it is. It's just not the one you're choosing to use because it doesn't favor your coach.
No it isn't, not by any definition nor measurement. One can be an innovator and change an system of doing something for the better and undoubtedly someone will come along and do what you have been doing better than you. Who is the best at doing that thing then, the one who came up with it or the one who is doing it better in every conceivable way?
Of the widely held top 10 CFB coaches of all time only 2 are noted for their innovations. Pop Warner and Amos Stagg. The rest, folks like Nick Saban and Bear Bryant and Eddie Robinson and Tom Osborne were simply very good at every aspect of coaching football. No one would make the claim that Mike Leach, who was certainly as innovative as anyone, was a better coach than Bear Bryant.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:34 pm to AwgustaDawg
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No it isn't,
Yes, it is...
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:36 pm to bigDgator
SEC East was a heck of a lot tougher during the majority of SOS's tenure than it has been during Smart's tenure, also.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:40 pm to AwgustaDawg
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In summary---
1. Smart has a better winning % through 7 years.
2. Smart has a far superior bowl winning % through 7
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4. Smart is far and away the better recruiter because he is coaching in an era where you have to recruit your own team every year, not just once.
Yeah, but Spurrier was winning and recruiting at Duke, Carolina, and Florida. 3 programs that when he took over were not good. Kirby walked into a UGA program that was strong already. Im not saying one is definitively better, but it was easier for Smart to get where he is, than it was for Steve to get Duke a conference title, and SC to an SEC title game and finishing #4 in the country.
Same with recruiting. UGA recruits itself, he put in hard work and made it #1. Steve took SC that recruited poorly and got us top 20 classes, then finished several years above that.
It is what it is, Smart wins championships so thats going to build a strong case for him, but Spurrier did things beyond titles for the schools he was at. Thats why its a tough debate
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:40 pm to GoldenDawg
Spurrier won before you could legally buy players. Smart hasn't won without buying players.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:42 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Spurrier won before you could legally buy players.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:50 pm to GoldenDawg
abtholutely not..Spurrier multi sec championships 4 a decade
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:56 pm to AwgustaDawg
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changing the game is not a measurement of success as a coach, winning and losing is
If that's how you truly feel, I sure hope you weren't one of the people on here advocating for Mike Leach to be in the college football HOF
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:10 pm to AwgustaDawg
Most sec teams were running one kid 30 times a game and running the ball 80 percent of the time when spurrier arrived at Florida. Everyone in the media laughed at the hire. Said you can’t do throw the ball that many times against an sec defense. Kirby carbon copied nick saban and went to Georgia. The media said this is a great hire Alabama’s system and process would work great at uga. Yes spurrier is way more innovative than kirbo.
Also spurriers college football stops an acc title at duke an east title at usce and at Florida national championship(last new program to join the club). Why is this even being discussed
Also spurriers college football stops an acc title at duke an east title at usce and at Florida national championship(last new program to join the club). Why is this even being discussed
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:10 pm to pdfield34
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Uh no. Spurrier was much more efficient. Worked about 20 hrs per week during the season. 10 out of season.
Kirby has to work 100 hrs/wk to do what he does. No comparison.
And in your eyes that made him a better coach? You know Kirby is still coaching, and more than likely will win at least 1 or 2 more titles, right? Imagine if Spurrier had actually worked hard. Not having a work ethic does not make you better. He might have had more titles for his schools if he had worked as hard as Kirby Smart does.
If i will Florida and South Carolina I would be ticked off.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:13 pm to DawgsLife
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And in your eyes that made him a better coach?
Sarcasm detection is not your strong suit, is it?
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:01 pm to bamabaseballsec
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Why is this even being discussed
Have you seen the threads started the last week?
threads on this board have covered:
UGA 2022 being the GOAT
Stetson Bennett being an NFL starter
Stetson being in the college football HOF
Kirby going to have a better career than Saban, winning 10 national titles
Kirby already passing one of the best coaches in SEC history (Spurrier)
UGA having the best run in CFB history
Granted, most of the threads have been started by the same 3 or 4 people, but this thread shouldn't be surprising to see
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:03 pm to GoldenDawg
Hell Yes!!!
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:04 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Kirby is having success simply because he's the head coach at a school that has more 4* & 5* D1 talent within 100 miles than any other school in the Nation (including Bama, LSU and texas.) Had Spurrier coached at UGA, 1980 would have died multiple deaths LONG before last year...
And yet he is the first coach to win 2 Titles here.
quote:Ypu might be right. It's a shame there is absolutely no way to prove that.
Had Spurrier coached at UGA, 1980 would have died multiple deaths LONG before last year....
"What if...."
"He would've..."
I see these spoken on here an awful lot. But nobody can back them up.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:40 pm to bigDgator
quote:Urban never coached against Saban at LSU.
Urban had to deal with a little bit of FSU and Saban at both LSU and Bama.
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