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re: Has Gus Malzahn ever developed a QB?

Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:52 pm to
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That's not a QB. He played QB, but he wasn't a QB.
It’s called a dual threat QB.

Kind of like Brad Smith and Pat White.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:53 pm to
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No.

Harsin going to be a better HC? I do not think so!
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:56 pm to
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inherited him, and he wasn't really a QB.


You said developed not recruited. And Nick Marshall was really a qb. Gus' offense is made for a Tebow not a Burrow.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:56 pm to
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but he wasn't a QB

How many “not QBs” have thrown for 456 on Nick Saban in a game?
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:56 pm to
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By inherit, what do you mean?



Fair enough.

I guess inherit isnt the best word, but I mean he got a talent that someone else had already developed. He didn't have to assemble it, he just had to plug and play.


I didn't mean he got hold of someone already on the team.

But the two considered his best successes were both older classmen from the JUCO ranks.

Every HS recruit seemed to never get better than when they arrived, and honestly, you could say the same for Cam and Marshall.

But those two were already improved from their HS days when he got hold of them.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:59 pm to
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Every HS recruit seemed to never get better than when they arrived, and honestly, you could say the same for Cam and Marshall.

Cam and Nick were absolutely better than their previous stops. And marshall was playing DB at UGA.
Stidham was arguabley worse. And no, none of his HS QBs developed.
What’s your point? You realize that’s a BIG part of why he was fired, right? You didn’t just stumble on something new.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:00 pm to
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Ignore that shite. And trust me, as an LSU fan I can say this: resumes aren't all that important in the grand scheme of things. Except for contract negotiations. Resumes mean jack shite as far as future success predicters.

Ok, so what metric should one use to hire a head coach. I can’t WAIT to hear this one.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:00 pm to
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Harsin going to be a better HC?


I don't think so. He may be better with QBs than Gus, but I can't see him being more productive than Gus. I seriously doubt his recruiting abilities for starters. We'll see how it plays out.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:01 pm to
He may win the Mountain West
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:01 pm to
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but I mean he got a talent that someone else had already developed.
Was Nick Marshall already developed? Remember, you already said he “wasn’t a QB” and also take into consideration that he threw more interceptions than touchdowns in JUCO.

In fact, he lead all of JUCO in interceptions.

He was referred to as Brent Shaeffer by every opposing fan on this board. And then he lit the SEC on fire.

I am not a fan of Gus Malzahn and have always criticized his lack of QB development, FWIW.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32479 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:02 pm to
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Ok, so what metric should one use to hire a head coach. I can’t WAIT to hear this one.




WEll, first: Do they have a binder?
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16158 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:03 pm to
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He may win the Mountain West


Well, he's recruiting slightly above Colorado State level. Makes sense.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:04 pm to
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Gus' offense is made for a Tebow not a Burrow.
Unfortunately for Gus, he still has not figured this out despite his 2 best seasons being quarterbacked by Cam Newton and Nick Marshall. Dual threat guys. 14-0 and 12-2.

And 2014 had a badass offense despite the 8-5 record.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:05 pm to
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Well, he's recruiting slightly above Colorado State level. Makes sense.

And Gus was recruiting worse than that. Harsin was able to salvage the 2021 class.
I expect Harsin will recruit offensive linemen too.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10565 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:06 pm to
No, and he's gone. But I'm sure he'll find his groove after collecting $70mil from AU.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2906 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:08 pm to
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Harsin was able to salvage the 2021 class.


If ranking just below Maryland in recruiting is a salvage job, more power to Auburn
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:09 pm to
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If ranking just below Maryland in recruiting is a salvage job, more power to Auburn
Oh, look... this guy has no idea how low Auburn’s class was ranked when Gus Malzahn was fired.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21256 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:11 pm to
NM
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16158 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:12 pm to
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I expect Harsin will recruit offensive linemen too.


Fair point. Anything would be better than what Gus brought in his last few years on the OL.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2906 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:14 pm to
Why so angry?
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