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re: Has anyone other than Georgia fired a coach like Kelly or Franklin and done
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:50 pm to koreandawg
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:50 pm to koreandawg
You must not pay attention. When Kelly was hired the narrative was “if Orgeron can do it, surely Kelly can.”
Everyone in Louisiana knew Orgeron was along for the ride in 2019.
He’s a fun guy who got to the top with a little help from one of the greatest rosters of all time and then cashed out.
And “Come on, Brandy. Let’s go.” is the greatest farewell speech an outgoing coach has ever given.
Everyone in Louisiana knew Orgeron was along for the ride in 2019.
He’s a fun guy who got to the top with a little help from one of the greatest rosters of all time and then cashed out.
And “Come on, Brandy. Let’s go.” is the greatest farewell speech an outgoing coach has ever given.
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:50 pm to koreandawg
No
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:51 pm to koreandawg
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Won't be popular among LSU folk, but O caught lightning in a bottle
They've been saying this for years, why wouldn't it be popular?
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:53 pm to jonnyanony
13.6% of National Championships won in the last 22 years.
Only a few can boast better.
Only a few can boast better.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:59 pm to koreandawg
Georgia gambled bigly by firing a moderately successful coach and replacing him with an unknown, especially given the abysmal Saban assistant track record.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:00 pm to lsufball19
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Georgia knew who they were hiring when they fired Richt.
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But they didn’t know he’d do as well as he did. Knowing who you’re going to hire is great and everything but firing a perennial 10 win coach was still a massive risk when your hire had zero HC experience
If your question is “has a team ever fired a coach like that and had a good hire on paper” the answer is yes
If your question is “has a team ever fired a coach like that and been successful” well you answered that in your OP
I don’t even know why we’re putting Kelly in this group. His success wasn’t even at the school that just fired him, so it’s not really comparable to Richt at UGA.
No. The two questions weren't necessarily related.
Well aware Kirby wasn't a sure thing.
The question of whether LSU had a coach they already knew would come and liked better than Kelly was a real question. Maybe you do.
My point is that it's really rare and firing a coach like Kelly tends to put you in a worse place than you were before that. We can see clear examples from the past in Tennessee, Nebraska, Auburn, etc.
I will say I asked this question on another board and another example was given that was like UGA. John Cooper to Tressel.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:00 pm to koreandawg
Shiiiit. Most big ten schools got worse when they fired their big names. Maybe with the exception of Ohio state. Michigan didn’t fire Harbaugh by the cheating was breathing down his neck. Penn state may have made a big mistake. We don’t know. Oregon got better when they hired Lanning. Washington is worse off after losing DeBoer. Although they aren’t a bad program. Iowa has their coach from 30 years ago. Nebraska has a decent coach but he’s never winning a natty there
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:02 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
moderately successful coach
Stupid statement. Moderately successful coaches don't make the coaching HOF.
It's like saying a CEO who started his own company that was worth half a billion was moderately successful because he wasn't really successful like Musk or Gates, etc.
Stupid statement. Moderately successful coaches don't make the coaching HOF.
It's like saying a CEO who started his own company that was worth half a billion was moderately successful because he wasn't really successful like Musk or Gates, etc.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:03 pm to Nasty_Canasta
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Shiiiit. Most big ten schools got worse when they fired their big names. Maybe with the exception of Ohio state. Michigan didn’t fire Harbaugh by the cheating was breathing down his neck. Penn state may have made a big mistake. We don’t know. Oregon got better when they hired Lanning. Washington is worse off after losing DeBoer. Although they aren’t a bad program. Iowa has their coach from 30 years ago. Nebraska has a decent coach but he’s never winning a natty there
This my point. More likely things get worse than better in the near future.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:04 pm to koreandawg
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This my point. More likely things get worse than better in the near future.
Totally agree
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:05 pm to WaterLink
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Why wouldn't that be popular? That's the prevailing sentiment among our fanbase, obviously there are still some that put O on a higher pedestal but they're the minority.
Miles -> O is really more of an apt comparison for this discussion.
When I argued I thought Richt was a better coach than O after he was fired, got more downvotes than upvotes on here.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:05 pm to TouchdownAlabama
quote:No he wasn't.
That was what LSU thought Brian Kelly after Coach O was gonna be.
Orgeron tore down most of the infrastructure at LSU, and the program had to be rebuilt. I've said it on other threads--- not talking about schemes, players or coaching here. Talking about the whole "football operations" thing. Orgeron broke what Saban had built and Miles had maintained.
Kelly was brought in to fix that, and if he could also win on the field- great. But it's going to be a lot smoother transition this time around than it was last time.
As for whether LSU has someone lined up; I personally think so. I think there's a specific target, someone who is receptive to coming here. And I think the issue is, that someone was also listening to Florida. I think the powers that be had decided that Kelly wasn't their guy last year, and gave him a chance to prove otherwise this year (and the buyout played a big part)... and he didn't. That much is fine, he would have been gone a year or two later, but the combination of the collapse this season PLUS Florida being open forced their hand.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:09 pm to koreandawg
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moderately successful coach
Stupid statement. Moderately successful coaches don't make the coaching HOF.
Let’s be honest, Richt was pretty successful. Won an SEC title, beat his rivals on a more than average basis, won a few big orange or sugar bowls, but never won or played for a national championship….he never reached the pinnacle of success - so I guess he was moderately successful?
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:13 pm to EasternShoreTider
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Let’s be honest, Richt was pretty successful. Won an SEC title, beat his rivals on a more than average basis, won a few big orange or sugar bowls, but never won or played for a national championship….he never reached the pinnacle of success - so I guess he was moderately successful?
I'm in agreement here. I was replying to a Bammer that said he was moderately successful. He's in the HOF. The vast amount of college football coaching hires never win their conference, never win multiple big bowl games.
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:15 pm to Scoob
Everyone talks about the LSU game day experience being the best etc. That is a function of winning. Take it from a fan of a team that has been up and down over decades of time, that atmosphere can disappear in a heartbeat with a run of “less than” seasons.
I love the sport of college football and I want as many success programs as possible which is why I want parity so all student sections and season ticket holder sections are packed. The traditional big boy programs have to realize the days of undefeated or 1 loss seasons are gonna be rare under NIL as those wins go elsewhere. But the sport will be healthier as the wins spread out and make for more competitive games.
I love the sport of college football and I want as many success programs as possible which is why I want parity so all student sections and season ticket holder sections are packed. The traditional big boy programs have to realize the days of undefeated or 1 loss seasons are gonna be rare under NIL as those wins go elsewhere. But the sport will be healthier as the wins spread out and make for more competitive games.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:17 pm to EasternShoreTider
Richt has a couple FSU Natty rings
Jimbo has a Natty Ring from the LSU 2003 team....I wonder.....hmmmm
Jimbo has a Natty Ring from the LSU 2003 team....I wonder.....hmmmm
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:50 pm to thenza
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You must not pay attention. When Kelly was hired the narrative was “if Orgeron can do it, surely Kelly can.”
If Kelly just fielded an average defense, he gets one with Daniels that year. It was statistically one of the best in college history.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:24 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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You moron..every article written on this firing calls the LSU opening the top job on the country... with a stadium and fan atmosphere that is an unbeatable experience.....you idiots just make shite up.
Wow. This is an absolutely ridiculous take.
The top job opening in the country at this very moment does not make it a top tier job.
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I just realized the Penn State job is open. Sorry guy, any article telling you LSU is even currently the best job opening in the country is lying to you. Also, LSU and Florida are, at best, equivalent jobs. Beyond that, no other schools currently looking for a head coach would even be in the conversation.This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 8:41 am
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:27 pm to koreandawg
You could say Jim tressell was forced into retirement and then they got Urban.
I really can think of anyone to your point
I really can think of anyone to your point
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:31 pm to koreandawg
Yes. LSU fired Jerry Denardo before they hired Saban.
LSU also fired Les Miles and then won a championship with Ed O.
Auburn fired Tommy T and Chizik won a championship.
Bama fired Bill Curry and Stallings won a championship.
I’m sure there are a hundred more. This was a terrible dick stroking thread attempt by an obviously retarded UGA fan.
LSU also fired Les Miles and then won a championship with Ed O.
Auburn fired Tommy T and Chizik won a championship.
Bama fired Bill Curry and Stallings won a championship.
I’m sure there are a hundred more. This was a terrible dick stroking thread attempt by an obviously retarded UGA fan.
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