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Harsin’s scheme simply doesn’t fit with Auburn’s personnel

Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:06 pm
Hiring a coach to implement a mostly west coast, “down hill” offense with a roster full of people who were recruited for and built for a zone spread scheme is a recipe for disaster.

A poster on another board did a great film breakdown and compared the offense to a Jim McElwain offense, circa Bama years. Spot on.

Tank Bigsby might be the only player on the entire offense who is capable of being successful in both systems.

These next couple of years are going to be painful. I’m disappointed in Auburn fans’ willingness to lay down and take it.

Here’s a pre-snap whirly bird, coming to an SEC Stadium near you if Auburn ever gets to a goal line.

This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:07 pm to
It happens during changes. If Harsin is the guy then it'll be worth it. If not they'll enter a Tennessee type cycle until they find the right guy.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:08 pm to
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It happens during changes. If Harsin is the guy then it'll be worth it. If not they'll enter a Tennessee type cycle until they find the right guy.


I’m not sure Auburn gives him enough time, and I’m not sure he can recruit well enough if they do.

Who are they going to line up against and over power in this league?
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:08 pm to
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Tuscaloosa

Automatic upvote
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:09 pm to
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to implement a mostly west coast, “down hill” offense


If that's the offense they want to run then they definitely hired the wrong OC for the job as well.
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:10 pm to
Why is clever play-calling made fun on here? I also think Harsin will be a failure, but that is an innovative play. It clearly worked.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Why is clever play-calling made fun on here? I also think Harsin will be a failure, but that is an innovative play. It clearly worked


It’s literally just a shift. I made fun of it because the players didn’t just shift - they rotated 270 degrees in the wrong direction before beginning their shift. It served no purpose.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:13 pm to
That's what happened with us and Matt Canada a few years ago. O said frick it, we don't have a couple of years and scraped it mid-season, fired Canada, and put in Ensminger.
Posted by DP4Tide
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:15 pm to
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If that's the offense they want to run then they definitely hired the wrong OC for the job as well.


Not to mention the OL.....but yeah bobo aint that guy
Posted by GambitAUfan
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:16 pm to
Boise was laying the wood to the ducks in your gif whirlybird or not
Posted by Trumansfangs
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:18 pm to
That, was comical !
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:19 pm to
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Boise was laying the wood to the ducks in your gif whirlybird or not


Who are these Auburn guys going to lay the wood to in this league other than South Carolina, who just hired a special teams coordinator as their head coach and want to turn football into a club sport?
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:21 pm to
Let’s not act like the SEC has all these big, bad defenses anymore

The SEC has gotten soft on that side of the ball
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:23 pm to
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I’m not sure Auburn gives him enough time, and I’m not sure he can recruit well enough if they do.


This is the money quote. Auburn folks are batshit crazy. They're not giving anyone time to "get the right guys" for his system. He'd better win and win now.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:23 pm to
So you are showing me a play, where the team and the play you are criticizing we’re successful in that they scored a TD and they were up by double digits on Oregon, but somehow this is a negative??? SMH
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4681 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Why is clever play-calling made fun on here? I also think Harsin will be a failure, but that is an innovative play. It clearly worked.



Because it's seen as a weakness? It is in my book and I think it is for coaching as well.

The Mad Hatter and Gus loved them some misdirection. Once discovered however, it seemed to work against AU and LSU.

Plus, Les seemed as if his one big win (9-6 in Tuscaloosa) validated him as a genuine, excellent coach - not needing trickery. Wonder what he'll do now...
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Why is clever play-calling made fun on here? I also think Harsin will be a failure, but that is an innovative play. It clearly worked.



What was innovative about it? That the guys spread out wide turned to the right and pivoted all the way around? I mean, why didn't they just drop down into splits, pop back up, and moonwalk into formation?
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:25 pm to
Well when 40 percent of the team comes down with Covid, or is isolated because of covid protocol, and half the season is forfeited, the scheme really won't matter will it?

All this payout money to Gus, in addition to $5 million salary, to get a coach who is a cultist and refused to do what was best for his job, players, fans... Well good for you Harsin and your "principles." Just like a couple of golfers who forfeited millions for not being vaccinated, he should be fired with cause and forfeit his millions.

PS at the trump rally yesterday, people booed when he told them to get vaccinated. dam... there are some stupid azz people, even in Alabama though most are obviously barners.
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
898 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:26 pm to
4 man shifts from quad receivers aren't common at all. It changed from a likely screen/pick to a power running play. If it is just a shift, then why is it a whirlybird?
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:27 pm to
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Auburn folks are batshit crazy. They're not giving anyone time to "get the right guys" for his system. He'd better win and win now.
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Mississippi St. fan
hmmmmmm

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