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re: Had we a 4-team playoff last season, LSU would have had 2 rematches
Posted on 6/27/12 at 4:38 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Posted on 6/27/12 at 4:38 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Honestly, I think an UA fan taking umbrage with an excuse for losing as opposed to simply congratulating the team that won is odd.
I guess it is a good thing I don't care what you think. I never said LSU wasn't allowed to do this, but this would be a boring place if posts were made with no response.
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Posted on 6/27/12 at 4:39 pm to BrerTiger
Yeah, and the team that comes in 5th and left out of the playoff will whine too, what's your point?
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:09 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Yeah, and the team that comes in 5th and left out of the playoff will whine too, what's your point?
But you're not whining that Bama had an extra week to prepare, right?
Because you would never do that.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:14 pm to BrerTiger
frick man, I was whining before LSU even played in the SECCG about how bullshite it was, I can provide links if needed.
After the fact, I accept it probably wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of the game so I haven't mentioned it much until now.
Leave it to the gumps to twist my statement into something it's not.
5 weeks to prepare for BCSNCG > 4 weeks to prepare for BCSCG
The teams involved are irrelevant.
After the fact, I accept it probably wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of the game so I haven't mentioned it much until now.
Leave it to the gumps to twist my statement into something it's not.
5 weeks to prepare for BCSNCG > 4 weeks to prepare for BCSCG
The teams involved are irrelevant.
This post was edited on 6/27/12 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:17 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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frick man, I was whining before LSU even played in the SECCG about how bullshite it was, I can provide links if needed.
Oh links won't be necessary to convince me that you like to whine.
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5 weeks to prepare for BCSNCG > 4 weeks to prepare for BCSCG
That would not have made a difference even if Bama had won on a missed extra point. Are you seriously trying to argue that an extra week with a month to prepare matters? Like I said before, if anything I would rather have a shorter break to keep my team from getting out of rhythm.
This post was edited on 6/27/12 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:20 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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frick man, I was whining before LSU even played in the SECCG about how bull shite it was, I can provide links if needed.
The only school with a real complaint about last year is Oklahoma State.
But all they had to do was beat Iowa State and they would have had their chance.
As an LSU fan, the only thing I feel inclined to whine about is the fact that I had to endure four seasons of Jefferson or Lee under center.
A national title last year would have been fantastic but I'm stoked beyond belief that we finally get to move on.
Sky is the limit with the Mett-siah. Though we should start an over/under on how long it takes the Rant to crucify him.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:27 pm to Monticello
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Like I said before, if anything I would rather have a shorter break to keep my team from getting out of rhythm.
There are lots of pros and cons, to be sure.
I would bet most coaches would like an extra week if for no other reason than to get an extra week of rest and minimize the chance of injuries in that extra game.
Moot point, though. I believe the better team won the game.
And as long as there are conference championship games that don't have to be won in order to play for a national title, there will always be complaints from somewhere. It is what it is. Bama is just the first team from the BCS era to win the crystal ball without winning the conference first.
Nebraska was in a similar situation in 2001 (Colorado won the Big 12 North) but Nebraska lost the BCSNCG to Miami that year. Not quite the same but had Nebraska won I'm sure some people would have bitched that they didn't deserve a shot at the title.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:32 pm to BrerTiger
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Nebraska was in a similar situation in 2001 (Colorado won the Big 12 North) but Nebraska lost the BCSNCG to Miami that year. Not quite the same but had Nebraska won I'm sure some people would have bitched that they didn't deserve a shot at the title.
Exactly. Bama is the third team to play in the BCS title game without winning a conference. We are just the first to actually win the game and make anyone care.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:43 pm to Monticello
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We are just the first to actually win the game and make anyone care.
I'm just pissed because I had that awesome sig quote from you stating "Alabama is on par with Florida and LSU and that's a great place to be" but now that sig quote means jack shite after 21-0.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:44 pm to Aman
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I just don't buy the LSU got screwed argument.
LSU had their chance on 1/9 and failed. We can agree on that.
The match up was unfortunate from an LSU perspective. LSU was tasked with having to win 2 games against the only team in the country who had a shot at beating them. LSU goes 1-1 against that team and is the perceived loser at the end of the season.
The same match up nightmares that LSU had to deal with on 1/9 existed in the first game. Everyone knew them going in. No need to list them out now. LSU prevailed on the road. Any other year LSU moves on and doesn't have to deal with that monster again. Call it a reward. Add in the fact that Oklahoma State was arguably more deserving to be there and you can see where the frustration comes from. Much better match up for LSU but still a team with a resume (better than Bama's of course) of a NCG participant.
21-0 doesn't justify Bama being there. That's not how things have worked in the BCS era. Plenty of BCS #1 and #2s would have been beaten by other teams in the top 10.
Bama was the better team that day, clearly.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:48 pm to skullhawk
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Add in the fact that Oklahoma State was arguably more deserving to be there
How do you figure?
Because they won their conference despite losing to Iowa State?
It would have been awesome to play Okie State because it was a much easier path to a national title but you seriously think Okie State was more deserving?
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:49 pm to BrerTiger
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The only school with a real complaint about last year is Oklahoma State.
Meh, they saved themselves the embarrassment of probably losing to LSU 21-0. And since it seems like everything else LSU did last season was forgotten after that game, maybe it was good for OK st. to not play us
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:53 pm to BrerTiger
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It would have been awesome to play Okie State because it was a much easier path to a national title but you seriously think Okie State was more deserving?
Beat better teams, tougher schedule, and won their conference.
Using your logic, LSU is penalized again for beating Bama the first time around. Bama gets in because of LSU.
Okie State would have been easier for LSU because of matchups. To say they didn't have a case to be there is foolish.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 5:58 pm to skullhawk
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To say they didn't have a case to be there is foolish.
Sure they had a case but their case was ultimately doomed by two words:
Iowa State
Pokes picked the wrong game to choke.
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Using your logic, LSU is penalized again for beating Bama the first time around.
Bama wasn't chosen in order to "penalize" LSU. That's the furthest thing from the truth. LSU was in no matter what.
If anyone was penalized, it was Okie State for losing to Iowa State. But most sane people would agree that it was much fairer to penalize a loss to Iowa State than to penalize Bama for losing in overtime to the #1 team in the country that happened to be in the same division -- thereby making it impossible to win their division.
Why should Bama have been penalized more than Okie State was penalized for losing to Iowa State?
You can see the huge difference between losing in overtime to the #1 team in the nation vs. losing in overtime to a team that finished the regular season 6-6 and got destroyed by Rutgers in their bowl game? Iowa State managed only 3 conference wins last season. Even Mizzou blew them out.
Take off your homer glasses for a second and think about that.
This post was edited on 6/27/12 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 6/27/12 at 6:16 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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5 weeks to prepare for BCSNCG > 4 weeks to prepare for BCSCG
Except, Bama didn't know it was in the BCSNCG until the final poll was released. Nobody knew for sure who was going to be the others opponent until then.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 6:45 pm to diddydirtyAubie
4 isn't enough to call it a playoff IMO. Expand it to 8 and I'll be happy. No one can complain then. If you weren't good enough to be safely in the top 8, you weren't good enough to win. 8 lets all of the Pac 12 and B1G posers in to get squashed on the field so we don't have to listen to their blubbering about SEC bias anymore.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 7:43 pm to Alahunter
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Except, Bama didn't know it was in the BCSNCG until the final poll was released. Nobody knew for sure who was going to be the others opponent until then.
So you don't think Saban was breaking down LSU's offense against Arkansas the week of the SECCG?
Your point is valid but a little weak IMO.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 7:50 pm to Roaad
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OU gets the nod for beating them and winning conference.
if Mark May and Rod Gilmore get their way, Condi Rice would be a commissioner and Condi would put Stanford in the top 4.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 7:50 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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rick man, I was whining before LSU even played in the SECCG about how bull shite it was, I can provide links if needed. After the fact, I accept it probably wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of the game so I haven't mentioned it much until now. Leave it to the gumps to twist my statement into something it's not. 5 weeks to prepare for BCSNCG > 4 weeks to prepare for BCSCG The teams involved are irrelevant.
bet you are not complaining about the extra week you have before bama this year
Posted on 6/27/12 at 8:07 pm to Roaad
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I think Bama could have beaten them. Not certain, obviously.
It would've been 210-0 if we played OK-State.
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