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re: Greg Sankey releases statement on SEC officiating

Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:19 pm to
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Irrelevant. The game wasn’t managed correctly and it was in favor of Bama.

Not only that, I don’t think many would say UT would have won had there been fair officiating. But it is a fact with fair officiating the score would have been closer and the way the game would have been viewed would be different.




Every team in the country gets favorable clock management at home. That one was a bit much I can agree, but it wasn't really relevant to the outcome of the game.

Cry more.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22741 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:25 pm to
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it's been explained to you people a million times already. if you don't get it by now, you're either being obtuse or you're just dense



All I really see is people saying it's been explained but not really explaining much.

Saying "It's about the timing" doesn't really say anything. It's never a good time to get a penalty. They kill drives on the first set of downs or the last set of downs every time and all it takes is a false start or holding to get that off on the wrong track.

And hell, half the time the result of big plays is because of the penalties. And if you think Alabama or any other team doesn't get shite called back on penalties, then it's you that's being obtuse or just dense.

Does Alabama get penalized more when the game is out of reach? Real answer: No.

Does Alabama have drives that stall as the result of a penalty? Real answer: All the time and yes even in the redzone.

I'll continue to think you're just butthurt and laugh at your inability to handle reality unless you got something real.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Monkey business
Member since Apr 2019
892 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:27 pm to
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What difference would the correction have made?


"This one didnt actually end up helping my team, so why should anyone else care?"

You are actually hilarious dude
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22741 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:28 pm to
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ah the old post hoc ergo propter hoc


So the answer is: No difference.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22741 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:29 pm to
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"This one didnt actually end up helping my team, so why should anyone else care?"

You are actually hilarious dude


If that's the first time you've seen favorable homefield clock management, then you must not have watched much football in your lifetime.

It was a bit much, and bad management, but if that's the only complaint, then cry more.
Posted by Monkey business
Member since Apr 2019
892 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:31 pm to
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but if that's the only complaint,


Its not the only complaint, did read any of this thread? Lol
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:38 pm to
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Veteran SEC official Matt Austin moved into the TV studio to offer expert analysis and rules interpretations in real-time on game days. Matt is not an employee of the SEC and is able to provide his independent perspective through various ESPN platforms, but primarily through the SEC Network. The SEC is the only conference to have an officiating analyst specifically assigned to its conference network


Yeah, Matt Austin is totally objective and unbiased.
Posted by Clawfense
Member since Oct 2019
20 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:50 pm to
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If that's the first time you've seen favorable homefield clock management, then you must not have watched much football in your lifetime.

It was a bit much, and bad management, but if that's the only complaint, then cry more.


The clock management, phantom time out when UT was about to run a trick play, complete BS personal foul (that wasn’t called against Bama when they did worse to Fromm) that kept the drive alive and Bama eventually score.

You write a lot about how Bama gets drive killing penalties and it doesn’t happen more at the end of games...but you can never back it up with facts.

Want more facts? What about when USC was called down and there wasn’t even a review to confirm? What about the blatant offensive pass interference that Danielson, of all people, could see.

The one side missed calls in the SEC championship games last year.

It’s never ending and it is willful blind homerism you don’t see it.

I get it, you guys are going to defend your team. But pointing back to the stat that Bama is the most penalized team has zero context. During the Bama/Tenn game there was a graphic showing that Manning and Guarantano have the same completion percentage at Tennessee. Without context and other stats you would conclude they are equal college QBs. How silly is that?

You guys laugh it off all you want, but this is rotten and everybody sees it.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Monkey business
Member since Apr 2019
892 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:50 pm to
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Yeah, Matt Austin is totally objective and unbiased


Haha
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9461 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:04 pm to
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This entire issue is about refs being favorable towards Bama "for years now". It's not about "number of penalties", it's about the timing and game-deciding penalties.

The thing that gets me is.. Bama fans try to use being the most penalized team in the league as evidence that they don’t get favorable calls. Maybe it’s just evidence that they commit the most penalties? They have certainly had ridiculous talent over the years and have been well coached with respect to position responsibilities. But they haven’t been the beacon of team discipline that they were in Saban’s younger years. See this infamous non-call as an example:



When you look at that can you really be surprised about being the most penalized team in the league?
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:14 pm to
Pure Spineless Scumbag.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22741 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:18 pm to
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The clock management


Valid, but doesn't really matter.

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phantom time out when UT was about to run a trick play


This is just ignorant because Alabama had plenty of timeouts and could have just called a time out themselves if they wanted too.

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complete BS personal foul (that wasn’t called against Bama when they did worse to Fromm) that kept the drive alive and Bama eventually score.



It was the correct call even if most crews wouldn't call it. He laid on him and gave him a shove. If he did nothing, then maybe I could see your point, but he did actually commit the foul.

So you're literally crying over a correct call. And your justification for it is an incorrect no call in another game?
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You write a lot about how Bama gets drive killing penalties and it doesn’t happen more at the end of games...but you can never back it up with facts.



You guys are the ones that are making the assertion, just watch the games.

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Want more facts? What about when USC was called down and there wasn’t even a review to confirm? What about the blatant offensive pass interference that Danielson, of all people, could see.



Same exact thing happened to an Alabama player in the USC game. That you don't know this really just highlights your own bias and agenda.

So now Danielson is the authority on correct or incorrect calls? Am I hearing this correctly? That's your appeal to authority?

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The one side missed calls in the SEC championship games last year.



And back to non-specifics. Neither team was penalized heavily in that game as I recall.

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It’s never ending and it is willful blind homerism you don’t see it.



I see all teams getting good and bad calls is what I see. I thought some of the PI calls against Alabama in the Tennessee game were a bit ticky-tacky, but it was clear to me at the start of the game that the refs were going to throw a flag on every little thing.


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I get it, you guys are going to defend your team. But pointing back to the stat that Bama is the most penalized team has zero context. During the Bama/Tenn game there was a graphic showing that Manning and Guarantano have the same completion percentage at Tennessee. Without context and other stats you would conclude they are equal college QBs. How silly is that?



Then show me the context where Alabama is getting all these stats late in the game only to artificially inflate the stats.

Do you even realize that's what you are claiming? That the refs purposely call penalties on Alabama late in the games to cover up a lack of previous calls during the game.

Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
3911 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:03 am to
So either he messed up the quote or his grammar is shite in the first paragraph. That’s a Real professional we have running the SEC.

Matt Austin was a terrible official. He’s out there to protect the officials. That’s it. I don’t give a f if he no longer is paid by the SEC. He was paid by them for many years and has not only worked with many of the guys he is covering but knows them well.

The transparency should be for the SEC office to release the grades of officials on games and also have the head official and replay official available for comment and questions from the media.

It is clear that Sankey is trying to protect the Alabama favoritism from reaching a fervor. Keep it up guys. The SEC officials need to be exposed for their corruption. I appreciate the media calling out their bias during Alabama games.
Posted by Rip N Lip
What does my VPN say?
Member since Jul 2019
5227 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:15 am to
From 2012.



But it would most definitely be called targeting in 2019.
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 12:27 am
Posted by Rip N Lip
What does my VPN say?
Member since Jul 2019
5227 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:25 am to
Mike Slive was from Utica, NY, did you whine as much when he was commissioner?
Posted by Rip N Lip
What does my VPN say?
Member since Jul 2019
5227 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 1:19 am to
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I miss Mike Slive. That guy had the SEC at its peak with some great football and i don’t remember officiating being too bad.


Slive: BAMA football won 3 National Championships, 3 SEC Titles

Sankey: BAMA football has won 2 National Championships, 3 SEC Titles

Yep, Slive was better.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24012 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:23 am to
IF this is the response from the SEC front office, no wonder we have the kind of officiating that we do. It's a lackadaisical attitude.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52755 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:45 am to
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after all of the calls that LSU got last weekend vs MSU
name one





Let me pull up the game and I'll link you some, just let because you are even questioning it.

eta: okay, first one I see is you got a free first down on a "hands to face" when the MSU defender had his hands on your right tackle's collar. Kept a drive alive. Was a bullshite call.


second one I see is an extremely obvious offside on Chaisson on MSU's touchdown. Not called.


third one is a clear as day PI on Chaisson that was not called.

Fourth I see was a horse shite PI called on MSU downfield around the 7 minute mark of the 3rd. Was GREAT coverage. Nope. PI. 1st down LSU.
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 7:41 am
Posted by Frankenstein Vol
Member since Oct 2019
707 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:53 am to
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Rip N Lip

Yes, a classless POS Bammer fan would think that cheap shot was funny.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19552 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:59 am to

I don't know why anybody expected anything different.

If you go to the games, or watch on TV, you're paying him to maintain the status quo.
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