
Clawfense
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re: NCAA Can't Legally Punish Schools For NIL Deals During Recruiting Process
Posted by Clawfense on 2/9/24 at 5:22 pm
I guess we’ll see the outcome of the court ruling on this. This feels like selective enforcement. You can’t tell me UT is the only school with a collective made up of “boosters” doing this prior to May 2022.
re: NCAA Can't Legally Punish Schools For NIL Deals During Recruiting Process
Posted by Clawfense on 2/9/24 at 5:19 pm
Again, in terms of the booster definition, spyer or whatever it is didn’t fit in that definition. It could be run by boosters, it could be funded by boosters, it could be owned by boosters, but the collective itself is an independent entity. As long as they are not promising pay for play at a specific school they were free to fly whoever they wanted for whatever reason.
That changed in May 2022, with more rules on collectives as boosters, but the trip in question happened in March when there was no rule against it.
Are we all in agreement with the NCAA applying rules retroactively?
That changed in May 2022, with more rules on collectives as boosters, but the trip in question happened in March when there was no rule against it.
Are we all in agreement with the NCAA applying rules retroactively?
re: NCAA Can't Legally Punish Schools For NIL Deals During Recruiting Process
Posted by Clawfense on 2/9/24 at 5:13 pm
Looks like the guidance on reclassifying what a booster is to include collectives and corporations was instituted in May 2022 by the NCAA.
For whatever it’s worth, the Nico trip, arranged by Spyer, happened in March 2022.
How can the NCAA punish a school for breaking a rule that didn’t exist? And do we all believe UT was the only school doing this prior to May 2022?
For whatever it’s worth, the Nico trip, arranged by Spyer, happened in March 2022.
How can the NCAA punish a school for breaking a rule that didn’t exist? And do we all believe UT was the only school doing this prior to May 2022?
re: NCAA Can't Legally Punish Schools For NIL Deals During Recruiting Process
Posted by Clawfense on 2/9/24 at 4:59 pm
I’m looking and I can’t find what the exact rule was on booster/NIL activities were….and this is important…at the time the trip happened. The NIL guidance from the NCAA has been a constantly changing mish-mash of unclear rules, guidance, and policies. Charlie Baker even said as such not even 3-months ago admitting there are no rules and was calling for national regulation. At the end of the day, any control the NCAA wants to put on it is in violation of the Sherman act.
As far as the lawsuit, it doesn’t look good for the NCAA. Their batting average in court is abysmal, and I doubt the AG of two states would sign on to a lawsuit that was a loser. Maybe I’m wrong, who knows.
We’ll see what happens, but I’m betting the NCAA loses this.
As far as the lawsuit, it doesn’t look good for the NCAA. Their batting average in court is abysmal, and I doubt the AG of two states would sign on to a lawsuit that was a loser. Maybe I’m wrong, who knows.
We’ll see what happens, but I’m betting the NCAA loses this.
re: NCAA Can't Legally Punish Schools For NIL Deals During Recruiting Process
Posted by Clawfense on 2/9/24 at 12:07 pm
What booster flew a recruit to Knoxville?
The argument UT is making is that the collective isn't a booster and wasn't classified as such when the trip happened. The NCAA classifying a collective as a booster was done after the fact and the NCAA is now trying to retroactively apply the rule.
If a collective is now designated as a booster, then every school in the country that uses a collective is guilty. Hell, Bama has opened an NIL center ON CAMPUS next to the stadium. If we are to believe NIL collectives are boosters, why is Bama opening a booster shop next to the stadium with impunity?
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I have to honestly ask, if this NCAA/UT fiasco isn't a vendetta against UT, then what is it and why aren't more schools getting punished for doing the very same thing?
The argument UT is making is that the collective isn't a booster and wasn't classified as such when the trip happened. The NCAA classifying a collective as a booster was done after the fact and the NCAA is now trying to retroactively apply the rule.
If a collective is now designated as a booster, then every school in the country that uses a collective is guilty. Hell, Bama has opened an NIL center ON CAMPUS next to the stadium. If we are to believe NIL collectives are boosters, why is Bama opening a booster shop next to the stadium with impunity?
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I have to honestly ask, if this NCAA/UT fiasco isn't a vendetta against UT, then what is it and why aren't more schools getting punished for doing the very same thing?
re: Tennessee 31 @ Clemson 14 Final - ESPN
Posted by Clawfense on 12/30/22 at 11:18 pm
Tennessee beat 3 of the last 4 national champions this year. Unreal.
re: I hate Alabama
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/20 at 2:08 pm
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Many recruits I knew were asking why does Fulmer hate Alabama so much. They were saying they did not want to play for such an obsessed coach that would literally do anything, and they would not trust him. You might notice that at about the same time that Alabama went on probation, Tennessee football started its decline.
What? Tenn won the East in 2007, 2008 tanked, Kiffin bolted in 2009, then the bottom fell out during the Dooley and Jones years.
Fulmer resting on his laurels from 2005-2008 is partly to blame, but that night Kiffin left for USC is when that dumpster fire really took off.
Bama going on probation had nothing to do with the Tenn decline. Fulmer’s “obsession” with Bama is a figment if y’all’s imagination. Did you hear what Fulmer said about Bama in Pruitt’s hiring press conference? He respects the program and what you have achieved.
Far be it from me to defend Fulmer here but you guys have it wrong. Just hate Fulmer because he owned you. This other fantasy crap you guys post because you are pissed for getting caught cheating is silly. You are believing what you want, not what is reality.
re: I hate Alabama
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/20 at 12:54 pm
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The ncaa was out to get Alabama due to items that happened in 1992-1994. Fulmer was not the only one to make things up about Alabama, but he also was doing things that the ncaa accused Alabama of doing. To cover it up, Fulmer gave the ncaa what they wanted and the ncaa looked the other way.
Yes, for a very short time, Tennessee was able to win against Alabama. However I wonder if that short term success (and 1 NC) was worth the destruction of the Tennessee program. I guess I need to ask a Vol fan for that answer. As an Alabama fan, and everything was reversed, I would say "no"
What Fulmer did tanked the UT football program for 15 years now and it is still going. Alabama may run the streak up to 20+ before UT wins again.
If you are saying Fulmer turning in Bama is what tanked the program 10 years after the fact, that is some next level stupidity.
If you are saying Fulmer got complacent and rested on his laurels and that is what kick started the comedy of errors that Tenn has gone through, then you will get no argument from me. Most don't remember, but Kiffin had UT headed in the right direction and was a gnat's hair away from beating Bama in Tuscaloosa with 285lbs lineman. What really kickstarted the UT downfall was him bolting literally in the middle of the night for USC.
After that, UT mismanagement was the cause of everything.
That aside, read up on the Albert Means scandal outside of something other than a Bama website. Fulmer was a very, very small part of that. Houston Nutt and others were the ones that actually truned Bama in. Fulmer just gave one deposition about what he knew, thats it.
I still say the Bama hate for Fulmer has to do with is record against them and impotence of Bama not being able to deal with him. The means stuff is the birdie you all want to focus on.
re: I hate Alabama
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/20 at 10:48 am
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A lot of it was made up. A car that was mentioned was not even produced until 2 years later. Several people took the ncaa to court and won, and it pissed off the ncaa so they made some trumped up charges and made them stick.
I don't know, but a lot of it was true too. No? Like I said, it wasn't just Fulmer. But you guys continue to focus just on him.
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You realize that due to the ncaa sanctions, everybody had their shots at Alabama. A weakened Alabama was easy to beat.
Just call it what it is, you don't like the fact that he owned you to the tune of 7 in a row and 10 of 11 (not counting the Bama 2005 win being vacated).
This pissing and moaning about Fulmer turning you guys in is just about the dumbest thing the Bama fans post around this time of year.
Bama can roll off 50 in a row to UT but it won't change the fact that Fulmer, for that short period period, bent Bama over more than anyone else.
re: I hate Alabama
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/20 at 10:31 am
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It would have stayed a good natured rivalry if not for the donut king. Tennessee's fault. Sorry.
It’s amazing that the Bama fans still can’t get this right. I’m no fan of Fulmer, but it wasn’t just him that was a part of that Means fiasco. It was a handful of coaches and at the end of the day, Bama was, in fact, cheating.
You Bammers just single Fulmer out because he was your daddy in the late 90’s and early 2000’s.
re: Undefeated Teams vs Power 5 teams
Posted by Clawfense on 11/4/19 at 7:43 am
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ACC blows, I know it, you know it, and everybody reading this post knows it, this is called "trying to put lipstick on a pig"
Agreed, stats are absolute crap without context.
SEC officiating is biased towards Bama. I know it, you know it, and everybody reading this post knows it, it’s called "trying to put lipstick on a pig".
re: Greg Sankey releases statement on SEC officiating
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/19 at 10:50 pm
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If that's the first time you've seen favorable homefield clock management, then you must not have watched much football in your lifetime.
It was a bit much, and bad management, but if that's the only complaint, then cry more.
The clock management, phantom time out when UT was about to run a trick play, complete BS personal foul (that wasn’t called against Bama when they did worse to Fromm) that kept the drive alive and Bama eventually score.
You write a lot about how Bama gets drive killing penalties and it doesn’t happen more at the end of games...but you can never back it up with facts.
Want more facts? What about when USC was called down and there wasn’t even a review to confirm? What about the blatant offensive pass interference that Danielson, of all people, could see.
The one side missed calls in the SEC championship games last year.
It’s never ending and it is willful blind homerism you don’t see it.
I get it, you guys are going to defend your team. But pointing back to the stat that Bama is the most penalized team has zero context. During the Bama/Tenn game there was a graphic showing that Manning and Guarantano have the same completion percentage at Tennessee. Without context and other stats you would conclude they are equal college QBs. How silly is that?
You guys laugh it off all you want, but this is rotten and everybody sees it.
re: Unbiased POS Line Judge and noted Bama fan Ryan Hagan
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/19 at 9:47 pm
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That’s not the ref, ya dumb in-bred coonass
It matters not. All of us with more than 4 brain cells know what’s up. Brother man bammer in the first picture is congratulating him on a great officiating game against UT.
re: Unbiased POS Line Judge and noted Bama fan Ryan Hagan
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/19 at 9:32 pm
In other news water is wet.
re: Why do I feel like Arkansas is going to beat us?
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/19 at 8:55 pm
You’re good, no worries. SEC will make sure Bama wins, whether they need the help or not.
re: Greg Sankey releases statement on SEC officiating
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/19 at 8:49 pm
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Because they're either whiny bitches or utterly clueless fricks when it comes to the rules of football.
You are a special kind of stupid aren’t you?
I bet you are outraged, utterly outraged it wasn’t called here:
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Us clueless fricks just want consistency, but I understand why your clueless inbred *** likes things just the way they are.
re: Greg Sankey releases statement on SEC officiating
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/19 at 7:55 pm
Irrelevant. The game wasn’t managed correctly and it was in favor of Bama.
Not only that, I don’t think many would say UT would have won had there been fair officiating. But it is a fact with fair officiating the score would have been closer and the way the game would have been viewed would be different.
Not only that, I don’t think many would say UT would have won had there been fair officiating. But it is a fact with fair officiating the score would have been closer and the way the game would have been viewed would be different.
re: Greg Sankey releases statement on SEC officiating
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/19 at 7:51 pm
Yet, Bama doesn’t get called for this.
The double standard is the outrage here. You Bama yahoos are willfully blind.
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The double standard is the outrage here. You Bama yahoos are willfully blind.
re: Greg Sankey releases statement on SEC officiating
Posted by Clawfense on 10/23/19 at 5:22 pm
My favorite play was the one right before the half that literally took one second to snap the ball and complete an out pattern. The clock literally didn't run for the entire play then it ran one second off AFTER the Bama wide receiver went out of bounds. Officials never corrected it.
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