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Posted on 2/22/22 at 4:08 pm to red sox fan 13
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baffling
Also note, this is since 1936.
A lot of these teams haven't done shite in literal decades.
By similar historical metrics, Yale is one of the greatest programs in college football history, with more total wins and national championships than any SEC program except Alabama.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 4:19 pm to SidewalkTiger
So Tennessee's the highest ranked SEC team that THE Tide could have as a real rivalry.....makes sense 
Posted on 2/22/22 at 4:33 pm to coachcrisp
1. No rational fball fan thinks Oklahoma is a better cfp than alabama.
2. Tennessee as a top 10 cfp is so 2000. This is 2022 and the Vols are among those "others receiving votes" at the bottom.
2. Tennessee as a top 10 cfp is so 2000. This is 2022 and the Vols are among those "others receiving votes" at the bottom.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 4:45 pm to Whentheleveebreaks
The Poll the OP started at it OU, Bama,
the second link had it listed.
1. Ohio St
2. Bama
3. OU
4. Notre Dame
5. USC
6. Michigan
7. Nebraska
8. Texas
9. UF
10. LSU
The reason the results are different is the addition of Natties while still using the final AP ratings.
Any argument about whether it was posted previously is of no interest to me
the second link had it listed.
1. Ohio St
2. Bama
3. OU
4. Notre Dame
5. USC
6. Michigan
7. Nebraska
8. Texas
9. UF
10. LSU
The reason the results are different is the addition of Natties while still using the final AP ratings.
Any argument about whether it was posted previously is of no interest to me
Posted on 2/22/22 at 4:47 pm to NorthPark
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Nebraska was walkon U for many decades. They are not getting nearly as many walkons as back in the day
They were also steroid U in the late 70's early 80's along having the non qualifier angle with those great teams in the mid 90's.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 4:48 pm to NorthPark
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The reason the results are different is the addition of Natties while still using the final AP ratings.
What kind of methodology that supposedly takes NCs into account wouldn't have Alabama #1 by a large margin?
Posted on 2/22/22 at 4:48 pm to NorthPark
Care to elaborate on the other point I made where it shows the rankings make no sense.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 4:49 pm to TheTideMustRoll
That’s OU math
Posted on 2/22/22 at 4:59 pm to paperwasp
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By similar historical metrics, Yale is one of the greatest programs in college football history, with more total wins and national championships than any SEC program except Alabama
Historically they are one of the greatest programs but that doesn't mean the same thing as having a great program today.
The IVY league offer's academic scholarships while everybody else offers academic and athletic. The biggest reason I think this is relevant is many generational wealthy people are grads. It is possible to likely that NIL money will help the IVY leagues programs. I doubt it will bring them back to winning natties but a top 25 rating is within reach.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:05 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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That’s OU math
The final AP ratings are significant as they also count your finish when you are not off winning a Natty, IT shows OU has fewer off years then Bama but when Bama is great, they are damn great.
I think it shows more about Aggis comprehension levels.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:25 pm to NorthPark
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The IVY league offer's academic scholarships while everybody else offers academic and athletic
They offer merit based financial aid and it can be more lucrative than a standard D1 athletic scholarship.
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It is possible to likely that NIL money will help the IVY leagues programs. I doubt it will bring them back to winning natties but a top 25 rating is within reach
Never happen.Big time athletics aren't that important to the schools or alumni except maybe for basketball at Princeton,Penn and Harvard.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:30 pm to SidewalkTiger
This shows you that behind Bama was Tennessee in the sec (sorry dawg fans). They have been in the gutter for 20 years and still top ten. Also, on the other poll, what metric would have Ohio state ahead of bama using national titles? Bama has left Ohio state way in the rear view on that one.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:33 pm to SidewalkTiger
Why 1936 as the beginning?
Also, I’m over all-time wins as an indicator of greatness. In the 1800’s they were literally playing against high schools and fire house teams and counting the wins.
Also, I’m over all-time wins as an indicator of greatness. In the 1800’s they were literally playing against high schools and fire house teams and counting the wins.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:50 pm to RD Dawg
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Posted on 2/22/22 at 6:02 pm to RD Dawg
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They offer merit based financial aid and it can be more lucrative than a standard D1 athletic scholarship.
Fair enough but misleading. They offer Merit-based to all students and it isn't offered to average or below-average students. In can only help the recruiting of an athlete if they are also a good student.
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Never happen.Big time athletics aren't that important to the schools or alumni except maybe for basketball at Princeton,Penn and Harvard.
That is a stereotype that is similar to the SEC schools academics and athletes are below average students. The pride, smack, and bets are just as common in the IVY league as the rest of the country. They love sports.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 6:29 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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Why 1936 as the beginning?
First year of the AP poll (which was the first poll period).
Posted on 2/22/22 at 6:33 pm to Colonel Ingus
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Ok now do a graphic showing how many of those programs’ head coaches turned down the LSU job
Sick burn buddy. I really would turn in those nattys to know that we got our first choice instead of the winningest coach in notre dame history, just in case he wasn’t it
Posted on 2/22/22 at 6:35 pm to XWing atAliciousness
Riley will have USC hummjng at least as good as Oklahoma was. I mean who’s going to challenge them.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 6:59 pm to NorthPark
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In can only help the recruiting of an athlete if they are also a good student.
Sure but it doesn't mean a "academic" scholarship and they aren't above recruiting kids who wouldn't get in unless they were good athletes.
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The pride, smack, and bets are just as common in the IVY league as the rest of the country. They love sports
No it isn't and their attendence and lack of facilities reflects that lack of passion.
Sure,Havard/Yale is somewhat of a big deal but the passion and competitiveness is far bigger in the boardroom,Wall Street and politics.
My Brother went to Wharton and played at Penn and pouring money back into Penn athletics wasn't the highest priority to him and his teammates after they graduated and went on to bigger things.
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