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Posted on 5/6/18 at 5:49 am to jimdog
1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. Texas A&M
4. UGA (Maybe)
5. LSU (Maybe)
6. Auburn (maybe)
You can argue 4-6, but I think the top 3 are pretty well set. My rankings take into account recruiting resources, money, facilities, AD support, fan support etc and is just my opinion.
2. Florida
3. Texas A&M
4. UGA (Maybe)
5. LSU (Maybe)
6. Auburn (maybe)
You can argue 4-6, but I think the top 3 are pretty well set. My rankings take into account recruiting resources, money, facilities, AD support, fan support etc and is just my opinion.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 5:51 am to Irons Puppet
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How many NC would Saban have with the old system of Conferense Bowl tie-ins and polls. He only has the one undefeated season.
In fairness there are very few undefeated seasons by anybody in CFB anymore. And there are still Conference Bowl tie-ins and polls still play a huge part. Let's not forget that most of Saban's National Championship happened under before the playoffs began.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 5:57 am to droliver
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However, they've usually been in the second tier of the SEC powers for the better part of a century behind Alabama, Tennessee, Auburn, and more recently Florida.
You would be wrong here. We have not been behind Auburn or Florida for the "better part of a century". Yes, Florida has passed us, but that has been in the last 20-25 years, and we have done as much, and even a little more than Auburn in the last 100 years.
Now, if you mean since the turn of the century, you would have a point. I suspect this is what you are saying?
Posted on 5/6/18 at 6:03 am to jimdog
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Georgia has the athlete population and little competition in state. A unique situation. So in the real, modern world that is easily the best job in America.
Not so fast. In the world of college football in which so many games are on TV, and such widespread media coverage, internet, ability for coaches to fly to see athletes, athletes are now familiar with pretty much all schools. The days of programs being isolated are gone.
At one time you rarely saw Ohio State or Michigan come down to Georgia and steal a top rated recruit. We now live in an era where if there is a great recruit, everybody is recruiting him. We pulled a top QB from Washington state, and Michigan has pulled several top recruits from the south. Florida is recruited by every major school out there as is Georgia.
Does it give a home state an advantage? probably. but nor when you are surrounded by Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Florida and Clemson.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 6:06 am to Tillman
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Clemson and Auburn raid Georgia, and other programs. ND is supposedly getting players out of GA now.
Exactly. Oklahoma had one of the top RB's out of the state last year. Trey Sermon.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 6:07 am to Tillman
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Alabama is the best job in the SEC. Nobody else in conference is even close.
It resides in a worse town, in a worse, state, with worse recruiting. quote:
However, they've usually been in the second tier of the SEC powers for the better part of a century behind Alabama, Tennessee, Auburn, and more recently Florida.
You're a moron and this statement is complete bullshite.
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Posted on 5/6/18 at 7:02 am to jimdog
Most of this novel is pure fantasy.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:55 am to armtackledawg
Specifically? Real truth is Georgia has seriously under achieved for years. But they hired the right guy who has learned from the right mentor and he got everything and more from a desperate Georgia AD/Admin. Richt was supported by the admin, he just wasn't hard core enough to push the envelope. LOL, he hired a DC who was (JP) and couldn't handle him, rumor is he almost got into a physical sit over that.
Hard truths: * Georgia has more big time athletes coming out of H.S. football than any state in the union. * The Georgia alums get involved as they do at all SEC schools. * Georgia has one of the top three or four recruiting staffs in CFB, others being Vols, CU and Bama. *Kirby has tremendous administrative support, as good as it gets. * There is zero serious in state competition for players and there may have been a player leave the state last year that UGA was hot for but I can't name him. For instance the QB who went to CU was passed over to recruit/sign Fields. Oh, Kirby would have liked to have lots of guys and some superior athletes left. But I can't name one that UGA singled out and said Ok, this is the one at that position. Maybe there was maybe one to perhaps two but darn few and that will change only slightly. When Dogs get too stacked @ a particular spot and and a few guys go some place else to play.
Hard truths: * Georgia has more big time athletes coming out of H.S. football than any state in the union. * The Georgia alums get involved as they do at all SEC schools. * Georgia has one of the top three or four recruiting staffs in CFB, others being Vols, CU and Bama. *Kirby has tremendous administrative support, as good as it gets. * There is zero serious in state competition for players and there may have been a player leave the state last year that UGA was hot for but I can't name him. For instance the QB who went to CU was passed over to recruit/sign Fields. Oh, Kirby would have liked to have lots of guys and some superior athletes left. But I can't name one that UGA singled out and said Ok, this is the one at that position. Maybe there was maybe one to perhaps two but darn few and that will change only slightly. When Dogs get too stacked @ a particular spot and and a few guys go some place else to play.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:59 am to DawgsLife
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In fairness there are very few undefeated seasons by anybody in CFB anymore. And there are still Conference Bowl tie-ins and polls still play a huge part. Let's not forget that most of Saban's National Championship happened under before the playoffs began.
But two of those NCs were a result of losing at home in November. Under the old system you did get a mulligan after those types of loses. FSU would lose to Miami in early Oct and be out of the race.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:27 am to jimdog
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Hard truths: * Georgia has more big time athletes coming out of H.S. football than any state in the union.
Simply not true.Florida,Texas and California ALL produce more blue chip and P5 signees but GA will probably surpass CA in 3 to 5 years.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 11:18 am to Tillman
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not sure academic reputation has much to do with football. lol
True, being a top 50 academic school makes it tougher on a coach if anything.
Bama is without question the best program to coach at in the SEC and top 3 IMO overall.
Few schools/alumni/community are as dedicated and none have their history. Bama has passed Notre Dame & likely Texas as the best job. ND admin puts too many limitations on its athletics in respect to academic rep & Texas fashions itself in a similar way while adding financial gains as a priority as well.
Bama football has embraced the reality of “student athlete” better than anyone. The recent report on % of 5 stars drafted first round is a remarkable and telling stat. The kids that are there to play after college are getting a huge advantage & the school provides a best in case education for the rest/majority that were never going to a large state school without their athletic prowess.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 11:24 am to jimdog
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Real truth is Georgia has seriously under achieved for years.
Nobody has argued that point. My argument would be thta there are other programs that have underachieved, too. Greatly underachieved. UGA is not an anomaly from that perspective.
quote:You missed on your very first "Hard truth." Florida, Texas and California all have more.
Hard truths: * Georgia has more big time athletes coming out of H.S. football than any state in the union. *
quote:This is a recent thing, and we have clearly taken advantage of it.
* Georgia has one of the top three or four recruiting staffs in CFB,
quote:JJ peterson, Trevor Lawrence, Josh vann, Kyler McMiichael, Jaren Williams, Matthew Hill, Justin Mascoll, Robert Cooper, Derrick Allen, Zacoby McLaine, Emory Jones and Smoke Monday were all Top 20 prospects in the state of Georgia that left the state. Granted, We were not interested in some of those guys, but a couple we went after and missed on. We just replaced them with players that were as good or better as a whole.
There is zero serious in state competition for players and there may have been a player leave the state last year that UGA was hot for but I can't name him.
We did sign 7 of the top 10 prospects in the state, though, so we are doing a much better job of keeping top homegrown talent at home. (Lawrence, Peterson and Vann were the ones we missed on, and recruited all of them to varying degrees)
quote:Not really. We recruited others hard, but we did recruit Lawrence hard until he committed to Clemson. We then turned our attention to focus more on Fields.
For instance the QB who went to CU was passed over to recruit/sign Fields.
quote:At one time it was Lawrence and then we also went after Vann very hard.
But I can't name one that UGA singled out and said Ok, this is the one at that position.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 11:27 am to BamaStepL
UGA fans........ 
Posted on 5/6/18 at 11:36 am to Irons Puppet
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But two of those NCs were a result of losing at home in November. Under the old system you did get a mulligan after those types of loses.
Isn't that the case with Alabama this past season?
In the 20 national Champions who have been crowned since the BCS era, half have lost at least one game during the regular season.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 11:39 am to jimdog
Georgia and Florida to me have as many natural advantages as anyone regarding recruiting base and alumni support. Alabama doesn't have quite the same level natural recruiting base, but they are close to great recruiting grounds and are crazier about football than anyone.
Kirby is doing really well recruiting because of a combo of fertile recruiting territory, great recruiting staff... and they are cheating their butts off. I am sure most schools with top 10 classes do some level of skirting the rules. I think Dawg alumni are all in.
Kirby is doing really well recruiting because of a combo of fertile recruiting territory, great recruiting staff... and they are cheating their butts off. I am sure most schools with top 10 classes do some level of skirting the rules. I think Dawg alumni are all in.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 11:52 am to CivilTiger83
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and they are cheating their butts off.
No more than any other school....including Clemson.
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I am sure most schools with top 10 classes do some level of skirting the rules.
Not just top 10 schools. They all do to varying degrees. You would be delusional not to see that.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 12:11 pm to CivilTiger83
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Alabama doesn't have quite the same level natural recruiting base
I'd disagree with that at this point of the game. Between near 100% TV coverage an the support the players and their families receive.. going to school even a 1,000 miles away isn't an issue like the past.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 12:27 pm to OldSchoolHorn
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I'd disagree with that at this point of the game. Between near 100% TV coverage an the support the players and their families receive.. going to school even a 1,000 miles away isn't an issue like the past.
As time passes on, I am believing more and more in this point of view. Television for almost all teams is at an all time high. You can find a game for just about any significant team in the country these days. Saturdays are saturated with college football. (Good times to be alive!)
I don't think it is a huge deal to see kids go to schools across the country anymore. Parents can watch their kids on TV and/or fly to see them play. Add in that if their kid is a top athlete parents are willing to send their kid to the school that best prepares their kid to play in the NFL.
The exposure that gave Notre Dame, Texas, Alabama, USC Michigan and Ohio State such a huge advantage in the past is still important, but it has been diminished.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 12:28 pm to DawgsLife
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1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. Texas A&M
4. UGA (Maybe)
5. LSU (Maybe)
6. Auburn (maybe)
I agree with this, except I would probably switch UGA and T A&M
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