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re: Georgia is about to go on a run.

Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:43 am to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:43 am to
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still not be as good as the UF teams of Meyer and Spurrier

There is no reason we can't be that good.
Posted by warcry
Mobile
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:44 am to
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JBearden


JBearden has spoken, let it be done.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:46 am to
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edit: I think UGA will be better than they have been, but it's folly to think UF is just going to stand pat and not improve. They've arguably been the best SEC team since 1990, at least not worse than #2. They won't just step aside now.

I don't think anyone expects them to go away. I do expect UGA to make it harder on them.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:47 am to
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What does UGA lose this year?


Offense:
LT- Wynn
WR- Wims
RB- Chubb
RB- Michel

Defense:
NT- Atkins
OLB- Bellamy
OLB- Carter
ILB- Smith*
CB- Parrish
STAR- Davis
Safety- Sanders

We could also possibly lose DT Trent Thompson along the DL, but with his medical issues earlier this spring and missing some time with injury this fall I think he will return. The good news for our LBs and DL is that we sub out and rotate a LOT, so we have some good, experienced depth there. We also return a really good corner and a good safety.

* denotes junior declaring early
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:49 am to
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I don't think Fields will see playing time next year. He's stated he would like to red shirt.


He stated he didn't MIND redshirting and it wouldn't factor into his decision. I think he plays a good bit next year. They'll have packages designed for him, if they're smart.
Posted by Prometheus
Member since May 2012
6198 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:50 am to
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Get ready college football.Maybe not this year, but Kirby is setting them up for a run.


Going to be the end of your Saban huh?
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37298 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:52 am to
Why must we always crown someone before their time? Is there some inherent need in men’s biology that drives them to this?
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:53 am to
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Maybe the third time is the charm.

Maybe or maybe not. You have a great foundation and seem to be going in the right direction.
I'm just commenting on how Alabama fans love to anoint every former assistant as the next great SEC coach...after one or two seasons.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:53 am to
Be careful of the planning to build an extra barn to store all of your new wheat. Bama has been bringing in top classes for nearly 10 years. We dominate, but there is a high level of under achievement too. Guys aren’t quite what they seemed. Transfers. Injuries. Key guys leaving early. A weakness on the coaching staff (it only takes one year with a mistake hire to waste increadible talent). Somebody else has a magical team, I.e., dumb lucks into a great team. Coaches leave. Arrest and suspensions. Other programs get once in a generation players.

The transitive property doesn’t work in football and neither does exponential factoring.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:12 am to
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uhhh, no


Really? Who do you think looks better?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:14 am to
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Sounds like the Alabama fans after Muschamp's 2nd year. Sounds like the Alabama fans after McElwain's 2nd year.


Neither were ranked as high as we are not, and neither of them recruited as well as Kirby is.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:18 am to
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Really? Who do you think looks better?


Who looks better than Meyer and Spurrier? Well, nationwide there is only Nick Saban. Certainly not an unproven Kirby Smart.

It's all mental masturbation right now, but I expect Smart to be a good coach at UGA. I just expect that Tennessee and especially Florida will also hire good coaches. I think it's a real good bet that this time UF will go after a proven winner like Stoops or Chip Kelly. Edit for those for whom you have to spell it out: I didn't say UF will hire Stoops or Kelly, though I think that's a possibility. I said someone like those two, and granted, there aren't all that many as good as those two.

Edit again: There is Frost, and he's another possibility at UF. I think he's going to be good. Real good.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 8:23 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:21 am to
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and make no mistake about it, UF will again find another very good coach.


Possibly, but there is no telling when that will be.

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but it's folly to think UF is just going to stand pat and not improve.


Why? It's been 7 years since Meyer left, and before Spurrier got there they were an average program. I realize thta Florida has a ton of high school talent, but it has been that way for a long, long time and coaches have not been able to take advantage of that. Add to that they now have a stronger Miami, FSU, UCF recruiting there, and Meyer poaching with his connections, and the job is only getting tougher. Saying they will not stay down might be correct, but assuming they will not is also a bit of an assumption.

They've had a great 20 year run, but it's been 7 years since they have had any semblance of continuity.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:24 am to
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Going to be the end of your Saban huh?


Not necessarily. Do you think it would be the first time the SEC has had multiple strong teams?
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:25 am to
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It's been 7 years since Meyer left


And they've fired two coaches in those 7 years when it was apparent they weren't championship caliber coaches (nevermind that McElwain won the SEC east, and beat UGA, his first 2 years). That reminds me of how Alabama does it. No settling for mediocrity. I think that's one of the reasons you guys didn't like Richt. Correct? And he ws at UGA how long?

UF is consistently the best or among the best overall athletics programs in the nation, not just the SEC, and they will absolutely make the biggest money making sport, football, among the best.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 8:28 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:26 am to
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I'm just commenting on how Alabama fans love to anoint every former assistant as the next great SEC coach...after one or two seasons.




And it's a legitimate point that you make. It takes more than a year or two. Mushcamp had a great second year and flamed out at Florida. However, he is also looking a bit more settled and seasoned now at South Carolina. of course, it is still only his second year.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:30 am to
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Who looks better than Meyer and Spurrier?

No. Who looks better than Kirby Smart? I said right now Smart looks closer to being in the Spurrier/Meyer mold than anybody else. I'll stand by that statement.

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I just expect that Tennessee and especially Florida will also hire good coaches.

I don't understand why people automatically think this. Neither has shown a penchant for this in their last several hires. particularly Tennessee.

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I think it's a real good bet that this time UF will go after a proven winner like Stoops or Chip Kelly.


Have they ever? I mean, Meyer came from Utah, so he would hardly be in that class. Spurrier would be closest, but didn't he come from Duke? Florida, as far a s I know hasn't taken a top shelf, proven coach in 40 years. Charley Pell maybe, in 1979?
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:34 am to
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DawgsLife


Ok. Just go on thinking that Smart is another Nick Saban and Florida will settle on another Will Muschamp.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:48 am to
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Be careful of the planning to build an extra barn to store all of your new wheat. Bama has been bringing in top classes for nearly 10 years.


there is not doubt. however, typically only 3-4 of those classes count, and we are about to bring in one fo the top classes for the 3rd and 4th year, so the talent level will be getting closer to Alabama. Granted we are bringing in #3 classes while Alabama continues to bring in #1 classes, but there really isn't a HUGE talent gap between #1 and #5.

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The transitive property doesn’t work in football and neither does exponential factoring.


This is true.
Posted by so_comfort
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
725 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:53 am to
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UF has made it clear, with the relatively quick ouster of Muschamp and McElwain, that they won't be complacent with mediocre.


That's kind of a double edged sword don't ya think? They've shown they won't be "complacent with mediocre", but they've also shown they won't give a new guy a reasonable amount of time to turn the program around. Even winning consecutive division titles isn't enough to get time to build the program in your image.

This kind of behavior by an athletic department tends to set up a ugly cycle of mediocrity. Just ask Tennessee. They weren't going to settle for the mediocrity of Phat Phil. Now, almost a full decade later, they still haven't found the right guy to get them back to where Fulmer had them.

Could UF and UT make splash hires that get them back to previous highs? Sure, they absolutely could. However, they are a combined 0-fer in their post-Fulmer and post-Meyer hires. The odds certainly don't look to be in their favor.
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