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re: Georgia fans should be happy

Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:31 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:31 am to
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The last few years of richt barely even resembled the 02-05 era richt.


Yea, it's pretty intellectually dishonest to act like Georgia people wanted to fire early era Richt or act like the end of Richt was the same as the start.

It's the exact same argument as the Miles thing. Both had great first halves and by the second half of their tenures both programs were underachieving and not in the national picture. And at Georgia and LSU, that's not good enough given the sole main state University status and players available.

This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 8:34 am
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
2543 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:35 am to
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But I swear, some of y'all seem to have convinced yourselves that Richt was Butch Jones-level awful.


Richt was really good for the first half of his 15 years here. After that....meh. Something happened to change his whole attitude and philosophies regarding his coaching methods.

I have no way of knowing, but he really seemed to change after his wife had cancer.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25753 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:37 am to
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I'm all for beign optimistic but that's simply not very realistic. Baker could make a case for being a top 3-4 CB we've ever had in school history, a current TFr who has seen meaningful time in about 5-6 games isn't just going to replace him without missing a beat.


Stokes is a sophomore. And he came on this season just like Baker did during his sophomore campaign (beating out a starter). If you look at the pff player grades, stokes is right behind baker in the secondary.

Trust me. He will handle his side of the field.
The question is if Campbell (who lost his job to stokes) can improve next year as a sophomore. He has been picked on. He is in position, but his skill breaks down as the ball approaches. Being a 5 star, there is a good opportunity that he can improve in his sophomore campaign.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:05 am to
There are a lot of people who responded that can’t read.

1. Y’all keep mentioning the punt and using that one play as an example of why Kirby can’t be a good coach lol. I already explained his reasoning behind it so learn reading comprehension skills. I personally wouldn’t have called it but I can understand it. If it works he’s a genius and if it doesn’t he’s an idiot. And FYI Fields didn’t run the play correctly. Had a guy wide open.

2. You keep saying we ALWAYS have the talent but aren’t able to fully utilize the talent. Ok well you are discounting that the talent is YOUNG. This won’t be a situation we will be in again as this was the big transition year from Richts less talented upperclassmen getting replaced by Kirby’s more talented upperclassmen. I just said a team comprised of 68% underclassmen dominated Bama but many of you didn’t pay attention. Kirby has not had a majority of his team comprised of MATURE Kirby recruits. That won’t begin until next year. So it’s really idiotic to say Kirby won’t be a great coach based on one play that could have worked and having a really young team.

Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:06 am to
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Yea, you should continue to have good teams and we'll probably keep playing each-other.

We'll keep showing up, though, I guess.


Seems like in 2020, LSU/Auburn and other west schools may be our biggest fans in the regular season... hoping for us to snatch a win in Tuscaloosa. I certainly hope that year is a struggle for y'all and we don't have to play you twice. (Obviously, in 2 years a lot can change... I think we've got a good outlook, but still going to have to take care of our own business to get to Atlanta...)
Posted by notatiger77
Member since Sep 2018
34 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:39 am to
It's hilarious that some Georgia fans think that both Alabama and Georgia played up to their potential and that now Georgia is essentially equal. Kudos to Georgia for their efforct, but that was Alabama's C game at best.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:43 am to
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Had a guy wide open.


There was nobody wide open. There wasn't even anyone open near the middle of the field until he clearly tucked to run and even then the guy cutting to the middle of the field had a defender on his hip and a safety coming up towards the line.

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I just said a team comprised of 68% underclassmen dominated Bama


You were outscored in the 2nd half 28-7 and outgained 267-222. Your final 6 possessions went Punt, Punt, Punt, Turnover on Downs, Game End.

You didn't dominate anything after the halfway point of the 3rd quarter, you were dominated. Just like the year before. It's fine to be excited about the future, but acting like Georgia lost because of some act of God after they dominated for 4 quarters is laughable.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 9:51 am
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:48 am to
If I didn't know any better it is like Georgia fans are trying to convince themselves that Kirby isn't a moron and a choker

Posted by JaboStokes
Member since Nov 2008
1865 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:04 am to
And Saban's recruit will be back next year ... Tua, Waddle, Ruggs, Jeudy, Smith. That should make you really happy.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:32 am to
between the 2 games with 120 minutes total Georgia led for 119 minutes.

290 total plays and Bama led for 9 of them(3%)

You were dominated.

The first time Georgia overachieved. We didn’t have the all the pieces in place even though we had some good upperclassmen and we still almost won.

The second time around we were more talented but ALOT younger. Once again overachieving.

2019 and beyond will be able to finish the job
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 10:37 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:36 am to
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between the 2 games with 120 minutes total Georgia led for 119 minutes.

290 total plays and Bama led for 9 of them(3%)


(a) That stat isn't correct - Georgia didn't lead for 119 of the 120 minutes.

(b) So are you denying that Alabama dominated the 4th quarter of both games?

You dominated the first half of both games. The 3rd quarter was a standstill in both games. Alabama completely dominated the 4th quarter of both games and made the plays to win once things got tight again while Georgia made the plays to lose.

If that counts as "dominating the game" to you, then more power to you, maybe you can shrug it off as 2 really unlucky losses or something. I think most football people would argue otherwise.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 10:37 am
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:38 am to
It is accurate.

Crazy stat: Alabama and Georgia have played for 120 minutes of regulation in the last two seasons. Georgia has led or been tied for 118:56 of that time and is 0-2.

I mean come on....your Heisman QB looked like garbage.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:38 am to
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The first time Georgia overachieved. We didn’t have the all the pieces in place even though we had some good upperclassmen and we still almost won.

The second time around we were more talented but ALOT younger. Once again overachieving.



Cool - I'd rather have been shot than running around explaining how really losing to Florida again in 2009 wasn't that big a deal because we almost won and were young.

But again, more power to ya. Whatever gets you through the off-season. Georgia is an elite program now and will be for years to come, but this sort of "but really" stuff is for 2nd tier programs.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 10:42 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:39 am to
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between the 2 games with 120 minutes total Georgia led for 119 minutes.

290 total plays and Bama led for 9 of them(3%)



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It is accurate.


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Georgia has led or been tied for 118:56



Yea, like I said, not accurate




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I mean come on....your Heisman QB looked like garbage.


And yet, we put up 250 yards in the 2nd half and outscored you 28-7 to win the ball game by 7 points in regulation. With our Heisman QB looking like garbage.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 10:46 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:40 am to
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Don’t study history much?

I personally hate threads like this...but I have to ask you....do you think history has a lot to do with what happens today, or next year, or the next several years?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:42 am to
That is the point - Alabama's best player looked like shite and got hurt while our wrs dropped wide open balls and more drops than we have had all year. All that happened and bama still won... again
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:43 am to
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The data actually shows Richt did a better job with his lower ranked recruits than Kirby is doing with his higher ranked recruits.


You remind me of this guy.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25753 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:55 am to
Crazy stat: Alabama and Georgia have played for 120 minutes of regulation in the last two seasons. Georgia has led or been tied for 118:56 of that time and is 0-2

I think that trend continues if you include the 2012 SECCG.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:57 am to
2012 was a little different as we led for a bit in the 3rd and then again for the last 4 or 5 minutes of the game. Plus it was scoreless for the entire 1st qtr.

But UGA probably did lead more than trail.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25753 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:10 am to
The numbers I saw directly pointed to the 4th quarter scoring for both teams.

Less a direct response to time tied or led.
But more direct to the one sidedness of points scored in the 4th quarter.

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