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Posted on 7/17/20 at 4:05 pm to djsdawg
Kirby is an Elite recruiter and an Elite defensive coach. He needs to hire better and go outside of the family for offense.
I'd take Kirby on D over Mullen on O every day on the week, and the recruiting isn't even worth comparing. If UF wants a better program than Georgia they need to start with putting an ad on Indeed.
I'd take Kirby on D over Mullen on O every day on the week, and the recruiting isn't even worth comparing. If UF wants a better program than Georgia they need to start with putting an ad on Indeed.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 4:24 pm to chillmonster
Bring back Richt as OC
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:06 pm to GurleyGirl
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our fielded team is too often much less talented than our recruiting rankings which to some extent explains our "underachievement"
Every team deals with injuries and suspensions.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:15 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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Every team deals with injuries and suspensions.
Certainly Not on an equal level.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:16 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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Every team deals with injuries and suspensions.
And some years are much better than others.We were incredibly fortunate in
'17 and got hammered in '19 especially at
WR position.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:21 pm to djsdawg
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Certainly Not on an equal level.
If you look at a single year—like Bama 2019–then I agree with you. Over 40 years...it evens out.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:31 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
I hope it does, but that’s likely not true:
How many teams have their star player suspended twice in a 5 year period, AJ green in 2010 and Gurley in 2014?
How many teams have their strength gutted out like our 2013 team?
How many lose their best OL and DL before the season like our 2008 team?
Point is, if anyone is gonna get fricked over by some brand new and random variable, its likely going to be uga.
How many teams have their star player suspended twice in a 5 year period, AJ green in 2010 and Gurley in 2014?
How many teams have their strength gutted out like our 2013 team?
How many lose their best OL and DL before the season like our 2008 team?
Point is, if anyone is gonna get fricked over by some brand new and random variable, its likely going to be uga.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 7:59 pm to djsdawg
LSU kicked a Heisman Finalist, SEC DPOY, Bednarik award winner off the team after 2011...then had their consensus All-American RB suffer a high-ankle sprain in preseason that he never healed all year.
Bama 2019 saw their defense absolutely gutted. LSU had their starting QB and a ton of others suspended for a pre-season brawl. LSU lost their best O-lineman for the year in 2018...
Literally every team in the SEC deals with that stuff...you just see UGA’s because that’s who you follow...
Bama 2019 saw their defense absolutely gutted. LSU had their starting QB and a ton of others suspended for a pre-season brawl. LSU lost their best O-lineman for the year in 2018...
Literally every team in the SEC deals with that stuff...you just see UGA’s because that’s who you follow...
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:15 pm to djsdawg
They were absolutely worth it. 11-1 with 5 top 25 wins. The 06 offense was ehh too, yet we blew out OSU.
Your Georgia team barely won over that average offense, and took hand outs all game to barely do it.
Why? Because Champ was an elite defensive mind and it was paired with Meyers offensive leftovers. Just like Smart in 17. Except Smart got an insanely easy schedule with every team in the East being below average.
Your Georgia team barely won over that average offense, and took hand outs all game to barely do it.
Why? Because Champ was an elite defensive mind and it was paired with Meyers offensive leftovers. Just like Smart in 17. Except Smart got an insanely easy schedule with every team in the East being below average.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:36 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Florida is now talking up the idea of doing more with less, as if that’s the goal.
Uga has been doing less with more for 40 years now.
In baseball for 30 years.
In basketball forever.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:41 pm to RD Dawg
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Aaron Murray is the leading passer in SEC
history and Fromm is the all time cumulative QBR and both had better careers
in college than Stafford.
None of them were good enough to make the plays needed to win the national championship. 2 of them came very close, but close dont do it.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:45 pm to djsdawg
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None of them were good enough to make the plays needed to win the national championship.
Rinse and repeat for 40 years.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:15 pm to Gatorbait2008
Still remember Florida blocking that punt and returning it for a TD to beat ULL in 2012. I was pulling for them, but ULL is like the UCF of Louisiana without the latter's achievements (however meager they may be) so winning in the swamp would've done crazy things to their already delusional fanbase
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:36 pm to Gatorbait2008
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They were absolutely worth it. 11-1 with 5 top 25 wins. The 06 offense was ehh too, yet we blew out OSU.
Your Georgia team barely won over that average offense, and took hand outs all game to barely do it.
Why? Because Champ was an elite defensive mind and it was paired with Meyers offensive leftovers. Just like Smart in 17. Except Smart got an insanely easy schedule with every team in the East being below average.
Playoff caliber teams are well rounded and/or at least conference champions:
The 2006 UF O was 12th in YPP, 19th in YPG, and 23rd in scoring, so it was FAR better than the crap 2012 O. Clearly, UF 2006 was playoff caliber.
What about UF 2012? I see those 5 top 25 wins and raise you 5 weak arse wins (Lafayette, Jax State, Mizzou, Vandy, Bowling Green). Playoff caliber teams dont struggle like that. Want an example? UGA 2017 blasted teams like that. 2017 UGA was far more well rounded than 2012 UF. Both played top 6 schedules when all was said and done.
Heck, UGA 2012 was more worthy of a playoff bid than UF 2012 was due to the head to head win (with Murray giving yall 3 INT's and a missed FG), the more well rounded squad, and the division championship.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:38 pm to chillmonster
Mullen is staring to learn. He is about to hire his second former head coach for off an off the field role.
I'll take Mullen developing talent over Kirby any day. In game Kirby and Mullen both can be brilliant and also incredibly confusing and make you want to pull hair out.
We shall see. Mullen has done nothing but impress his first two years here. Took over a broken team, got two top ten finishes. Now he has to take the next step.
Kirby started rough, went balls deep year two, then regressed year three. Will see which is the norm this year.
Neither is near a hot seat, but the game in Jacksojville will mean a ton for how much pressure both start feeling.
I'll take Mullen developing talent over Kirby any day. In game Kirby and Mullen both can be brilliant and also incredibly confusing and make you want to pull hair out.
We shall see. Mullen has done nothing but impress his first two years here. Took over a broken team, got two top ten finishes. Now he has to take the next step.
Kirby started rough, went balls deep year two, then regressed year three. Will see which is the norm this year.
Neither is near a hot seat, but the game in Jacksojville will mean a ton for how much pressure both start feeling.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:39 pm to djsdawg
Um. So you think OU was well rounded when you beat them? What was their defense ranked again in 2017?
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:47 pm to Tigerlaff
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All said and done, I'd rather have the great recruiter than the great coach. No natty for either before 2030, though.
Depends on the assistants.
See 2019/Ed Orgeron.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:55 pm to djsdawg
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Heck, UGA 2012 was more worthy of a playoff bid than UF 2012 was due to the head to head win (with Murray giving yall 3 INT's and a missed FG), the more well rounded squad, and the division championship.
Are you seriously bringing up your 3 turnovers and leaving out our 6 turnovers in that game? Come on man.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:56 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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LSU kicked a Heisman Finalist, SEC DPOY, Bednarik award winner off the team after 2011
Conveniently after he single handily led comeback wins over Arkansas and UGA in the SECCG. That kid should have never been playing in 2011 to begin with. Those failed drug tests didnt suddenly happen AFTER 2011.
With that said, I didnt even mention players kicked off, which brings up Nick Marshall:
Kid could have been an elite CB for UGA, but we kicked him off. Left our roster short in 2012. Even worse, we had to play AGAINST him in 2013, where he participated in one of the most inconceivable plays of all time, which furthers my point. Classic UGA to be the team that had that happen by a former player it kicked off. LSU didnt have to play against Badger like that.
I am talking about inconceivable NCAA investigations into 2 elite players like Green and Gurley. Got any examples of those? I didnt think so.
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Literally every team in the SEC deals with that stuff...you just see UGA’s because that’s who you follow...
You listed Bama 2019. Thats one year of one program in the whole SEC, so clearly not EVERY team deals with that stuff. Few and far between have that kind of luck, none moreso than UGA, none to the extent of UGA.
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