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Future Playoffs 16 Teams

Posted on 11/14/13 at 6:57 pm
Posted by LSU Jock 1970
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 6:57 pm
The 1st week of Dec. the 5 major conferences:
sec, acc, pac 12, big ten, big 12 (wakeup big 12)
play their championship and advance 5 winners. They have the next week off.

The 2nd week of Dec. 6 at-large teams play and those 3 winners advance.

Now there are 8 teams and the bowls can be used to play these games.

If the season ended today:
Alabama - Missouri
Fla. St. - Va. Tech/Ga. Tech
Stanford - Arizona St.
Ohio St. - Michigan St.
Baylor - Okla. St./Texas/Oklahoma

The 2nd wk. 6 at-large teams possibles
Texas A&M, Auburn, S.Carolina
Clemson
Oregon
N. Illinois, Fresno St.
Louisville, Cent.Fla.
Nebraska, Wisconsin, Minnesota
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27427 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:01 pm to
No.

Seed after Conference championships and play.
Posted by LSU Jock 1970
Member since Aug 2011
418 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:03 pm to
Seeding after conference championships would be a necessity
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:06 pm to
No. If the point is to crown "the best team" 16 is way too many. Maybe 6, but not 16.

As far as all 5 conference champions getting an automatic berth, be careful what you wish for. Wisconsin would have been in last year. Yes, a team that went 7-5 (4-4) would have been in.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27427 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Seeding after conference championships would be a necessity


Thats not what you did. You used the CCGs as a "1st round" which is silly.

Play the season completely. Seed from there and play a single elimination tourney until complete.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27427 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

f the point is to crown "the best team" 16 is way too many.


:kige:
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:08 pm to
The whole idea of a large football playoff comes from the belief that the football playoffs would be like the basketball playoffs and some team from a shite conference could legitimately be a top four team. I don't think that's the case in football.

At least not today.

Posted by LSU Jock 1970
Member since Aug 2011
418 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:11 pm to
They may have been in, but they wouldn't have won another game.

This format gives teams something to play for in week 12.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27427 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:13 pm to
16 is too many because you are adding what, 4 more games to the schedule?

For that reason alone it will never happen in my opinion.

8 teams is the sweet spot.
Posted by BZ853
Member since Aug 2013
1857 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:14 pm to
reason this would not work is what if bama and mizzou both went undefeated. bama wins the SEC. Would mizzou not be more deserving than a 2 loss wisconsin?
Posted by Penguin2013
Member since Sep 2013
31 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:15 pm to
more games = more fatigue. 8 teams is the right number here.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27427 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

They may have been in, but they wouldn't have won another game.


You are giving at large teams an easier road than some higher ranked teams in the 1st round because of the Conf CG.

Your whole system is flawed. You play the regular season then seed them according to a multi data point system that ranks the teams from 1-8 or 16.

1 vs 8
2 v 7....etc/
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20551 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:16 pm to
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not ever
Posted by Rodeonaut
Member since Nov 2013
810 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:18 pm to
It will be a long long time unit we get an actual playoff.

Why will it be such a long time?

Because everyone fell hand over foot for the 4 team 'playoff' that allows all the power and money to remain in the hands of the BCS people.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54725 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

No. If the point is to crown "the best team" 16 is way too many. Maybe 6, but not 16.


1 or 2 is usually all you need
4 covers the exceptions

Anything more than 4 and it just sucks. College basketball has totally devalued the regular season and attendance / viewers are off and falling. Devalue the regular season and you crap it all up.
Posted by Rodeonaut
Member since Nov 2013
810 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

The whole idea of a large football playoff comes from the belief that the football playoffs would be like the basketball playoffs and some team from a shite conference could legitimately be a top four team. I don't think that's the case in football.

At least not today.




I don't think that's the reason why a larger playoff is popular.

Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54725 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

some team from a shite conference could legitimately be a top four team.


How many times has this really happened?

They sell the myth, but the reality means teams that draw the most eyeballs.

They should get rid of the 68 teams, and go to a 16 team double elimination tournament for college basketball. get back to making the regular season something to watch.
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:41 pm to
Look 4 is more than enough. Most of the BCS' controversy has regarded whether or not #3 had a better argument for a spot in the national championship than #2. Occasionally, it's been about whether or not #1 deserved to be there; however, teams ranked 4 and lower haven't been the issue and 9/10 times won't even deserve consideration.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

How many times has this really happened?

They sell the myth, but the reality means teams that draw the most eyeballs.



VCU and Butler have made it to the Final Four within the past few years. The whole marketing scheme of the tournament is that anything can happen.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:54 pm to
Bleah. There's just no need for 16 teams (or 8 IMO), and even if there were your schedule is screwed up.

Look... since the '98-'99 season there have only been, in my opinion, two cases where it could reasonably be argued that the two most deserving teams didn't play for the title:

'04 Auburn clearly got screwed.

'11 Okie State and Stanford had a case against Alabama. Oregon not so much with 2 losses, but then they did win their conference over Stanford.

Point is, if the BCS rankings were used in a 4-team playoff we'd get Auburn after '04 and Okie State and Stanford after '11. We'd have what to me are pretty clearly the top 4 teams in the country, the only exception maybe being Oregon vs. Stanford at #4 in the '12 game.

I just don't see a legitimate reason to make the regular season less meaningful. I know they're not going by BCS standings, but I'd be really surprised if the 4 are much different than 1-4 in BCS. #5 may get screwed and set off a lot of people, but the same would be true with 8 or 16 teams. Want to be in those 4? Win!
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