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Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:22 am to ConwayGamecock
I see Dabo more folksy than wearing it like Freeze.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:25 am to Tuscaloosa
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That's terrific. It seems you are fortunate enough to not struggle with sexual temptation, as most men do. But I'm sure you can think of some areas of your life that you're prone to mess up in. Your area of struggle is no better or worse than Freeze's - if we're talking about this from a faith perspective, as the OP addresses.
I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you that everyone has the proverbial skeletons, whatever they may be. But Freeze based his whole reputation on his devotion to family, integrity, honesty (just read the article). It was a life built on a false pillar. Screw him.
How would you feel if your doctor was claiming to give you the best medicines, treatments, advice that were within his medical opinion only to find out some pharmaceutical company was pumping that shite and the doctor was just lining his pockets?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:27 am to Rhymenoceros
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But Freeze based his whole reputation on his devotion to family, integrity, honesty (just read the article). It was a life built on a false pillar. Screw him.
I disagree. I don't suppose there will ever be a way to truly know. But I think Freeze was living a pretty sound life, and allowed himself to fall into something he shouldn't have. He brought it all on himself, and his reputation is deservingly ruined. But I don't believe it was all a big sham - until relatively recently.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:29 am to Tuscaloosa
Also, full disclosure, I just upvoted myself on accident. I usually wait until I have at least one upvote from someone else before I give myself one.
Since we're being transparent good people in this thread.
Since we're being transparent good people in this thread.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:35 am to Tuscaloosa
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I disagree. I don't suppose there will ever be a way to truly know. But I think Freeze was living a pretty sound life, and allowed himself to fall into something he shouldn't have. He brought it all on himself, and his reputation is deservingly ruined. But I don't believe it was all a big sham - until relatively recently.
I'm not saying I think Freeze conjured up a false persona in order to advance his coaching career. But he didn't all of the sudden, over night become the man that's been exposed the last couple days (or years). He either preached something he didn't truly value, or his values were eroded with the popularity he received, despite, ironically, his popularity being based on the values he preached. Can you get what I'm saying?
And it's not that he had those faults, it's that he fervently PREACHED those values on his platform, despite his faults. That's the issue, and that's what's the difference between him and us common folk. Its like a Lance Armstrong, or catholic preist/pedophile situation as far as speaking publicly one way and behaving another.
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Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:43 am to Rhymenoceros
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But he didn't all of the sudden, over night become the man that's been exposed the last couple days (or years). He either preached something he didn't truly value, or his values were eroded with the popularity he received, despite, ironically, his popularity being based on the values he preached. Can you get what I'm saying?
Yeah, I understand for sure. This definitely wasn't an overnight flip of the switch. And based on personal experiences of my own, he probably had many opportunities to change his behavior along the way. I was too prideful to admit I was on a bad path, and too ashamed of what I was doing to ask someone else to help keep me accountable to my actions. I imagine Freeze found himself in similar shape.
Oddly enough, I think that applies whether those escorts were for him or recruits. If they were primarily for recruits, he may have felt like he was in too far and had to continue in order to maintain the success or to keep people happy. But either way, at some point he knew that he was in bad shape, and he didn't do anything to fix it.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 1:53 am to Tuscaloosa
You really do seem like a great dude. Not kidding thank you for your input on all of this.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 2:09 am to Tuscaloosa
Most evangelical Christians are hypocrites. It's all about appearances to them
Posted on 7/22/17 at 2:24 am to Tuscaloosa
Well, we know from this thread that Tuscaloosa has hired a hooker a few times in his life.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 2:27 am to Tuscaloosa
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I disagree. I don't suppose there will ever be a way to truly know. But I think Freeze was living a pretty sound life, and allowed himself to fall into something he shouldn't have. He brought it all on himself, and his reputation is deservingly ruined. But I don't believe it was all a big sham - until relatively recently.
Who cares if his "faith" was real or not. The terrorist that hijacked the planes on 9/11 had faith too. We saw what that lead to.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 2:30 am to Tuscaloosa
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You don't know any of that. You're letting your blind hatred for a guy you don't know - based on your football fan affiliation - form those opinions.
Bet you wouldn't be so comfortable trashing someone else if your personal misdeeds were open to the public. I sure wouldn't.
just curious... what's your thoughts on Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?
real? not real?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 3:30 am to Tuscaloosa
Tuscaloosa - just asking since you seem to know the Bible. The Bible talks about "a thorn in his side" but never identifies the thorn.
Is this an analogy: I believe Freeze was basically a good Christian man, but he had a thorn (hookers/friendgirls) in his side? Just like other men have fallen: John F. Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump.
I'm trying to come to grips with this, and I teach a 9th grade Sunday School class. I KNOW this will be the hot topic on Sunday.
Is this an analogy: I believe Freeze was basically a good Christian man, but he had a thorn (hookers/friendgirls) in his side? Just like other men have fallen: John F. Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump.
I'm trying to come to grips with this, and I teach a 9th grade Sunday School class. I KNOW this will be the hot topic on Sunday.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 4:39 am to matthew25
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matthew25
Great melt bitch
Posted on 7/22/17 at 4:47 am to BamaSaint
I see you are not a man of faith.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:52 am to Tuscaloosa
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Freeze isn't any different than anyone else alive. We're all in the same boat. All broken. Disgusting. In desperate need of a savior.
First thing you have ever written that I agreed with.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:13 am to Tuscaloosa
Upvote for almost every one of your posts in this thread. You know and understand the Truth, the fall of man, and our sinful state. Let 'em laugh at this, but we are brothers, and you know what I mean by that my good man. 
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:27 am to AshLSU
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Who cares if his "faith" was real or not. The terrorist that hijacked the planes on 9/11 had faith too. We saw what that lead to.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:31 am to Tuscaloosa
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IDK man, I feel like people can be genuine in their faith and fall flat on their face. It even happened in the Bible. King David is a great example of that. My biggest issue with what Freeze was selling was when he started talking about being persecuted and stuff - knowing he was in the wrong.
Bro the difference is that Freeze has come across as a typical televangelist.. This is NOT a matter of falling from grace or "making a mistake".. That fricker lied and cheated for years!! That goes well beyond simply "falling on your face". Danny Hugh Freeze is one of the biggest hypocrites that I've EVER seen..
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:41 am to matthew25
The thorn in the side was Paul's. He said it was to keep him humble because of the fact he had visions, and didn't want to become conceited by the fact that he had Visions from God and other people didn't.
The problem is, Hugh freeze was as conceited as they come about all of this. Arrogant to the nth degree.
The problem is, Hugh freeze was as conceited as they come about all of this. Arrogant to the nth degree.
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