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Freeze article from HottyToddy.com circa 2013
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:47 pm
This story. This. Frickin. Story.
Irony. Hypocrisy. Hilarity. Blasphemy. You name it, Freezus sold it.
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Irony. Hypocrisy. Hilarity. Blasphemy. You name it, Freezus sold it.
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:51 pm to Rhymenoceros
IDK man, I feel like people can be genuine in their faith and fall flat on their face. It even happened in the Bible. King David is a great example of that. My biggest issue with what Freeze was selling was when he started talking about being persecuted and stuff - knowing he was in the wrong.
Freeze isn't any different than anyone else alive. We're all in the same boat. All broken. Disgusting. In desperate need of a savior.
Unfortunately, Freeze's public position & his outspokenness makes his fall from grace much more brutal than most people ever have to deal with.
Freeze isn't any different than anyone else alive. We're all in the same boat. All broken. Disgusting. In desperate need of a savior.
Unfortunately, Freeze's public position & his outspokenness makes his fall from grace much more brutal than most people ever have to deal with.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:52 pm to Tuscaloosa
I'm just always weary of any coach that wears it on their shoulders. More times than not, it seems, this is the outcome. Something nefarious.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:54 pm to Tuscaloosa
For Christ's sake dude! Freeze is Jim Jones without all the dead bodies in Oxford. He is a psychopath that obsessed about social media and he was truly a very shitty human being. I'm no perfect person either but I know I got my shite together than he does.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:56 pm to Rhymenoceros
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What Hugh decided to do speaks volumes about the man........and his sheer spunk!
Yep.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:56 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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I'm just always weary of any coach that wears it on their shoulders. More times than not, it seems, this is the outcome. Something nefarious.
I agree, and it's still for some reason always more disappointing when that's the case. I guess human nature is to really want to believe in people. I don't have any doubt that Hugh Freeze's faith is real. Hindsight just makes me wish he hadn't been so public about it with the media. He set himself up for a face plant.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:58 pm to Tuscaloosa
Are you kidding me - there's a difference in being a flawed human and trying to better yourself despite your flaws. But when you use your self righteous persona for greed, fame, fortune at the sake of the principles you claim, you can frick off.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:00 am to MaroonNation
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For Christ's sake dude! Freeze is Jim Jones without all the dead bodies in Oxford. He is a psychopath that obsessed about social media and he was truly a very shitty human being. I'm no perfect person either but I know I got my shite together than he does.
You don't know any of that. You're letting your blind hatred for a guy you don't know - based on your football fan affiliation - form those opinions.
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I'm no perfect person either but I know I got my shite together than he does.
Bet you wouldn't be so comfortable trashing someone else if your personal misdeeds were open to the public. I sure wouldn't.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:00 am to Rhymenoceros
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But when you use your self righteous persona for greed, fame, fortune at the sake of the principles you claim, you can frick off.
I agree. It comes off as a "sales pitch".
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:01 am to Rhymenoceros
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But when you use your self righteous persona for greed, fame, fortune at the sake of the principles you claim, you can frick off.
I don't believe Hugh Freeze was doing that until the very end - when he knew he had gotten caught up in some things he shouldn't have, but still allowed people to sell that persona to recruits and their families - and that's what I have the biggest problem with.
I truly believe Hugh Freeze, at his core, was genuine in his faith.
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Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:04 am to Tuscaloosa
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Bet you wouldn't be so comfortable trashing someone else if your personal misdeeds were open to the public. I sure wouldn't
Freeze put it in public himself!
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:05 am to Tuscaloosa
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Bet you wouldn't be so comfortable trashing someone else if your personal misdeeds were open to the public. I sure wouldn't.
I could refrain from putting it out there as a public employee. Don't do it on state property subject to FOIA.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:05 am to Rhymenoceros
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Freeze put it in public himself!
Yep. That's not at all relevant to the point I was trying to make.
Nobody here would be so quick to make such harsh statements if their own personal screw ups were public knowledge. I am speaking for myself on that point as well.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:10 am to Tuscaloosa
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Nobody here would be so quick to make such harsh statements if their own personal screw ups were public knowledge. I am speaking for myself on that point as well.
Again, when a person is directly responsible for making their screw ups public knowledge, via he path they chose to take, I take no issue with public reprimand. You take the good with the bad being a public figure and you better be truthful to yourself enough that you can handle the consequences. Freeze clearly did not
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:10 am to Tuscaloosa
Sure he is. He lied to Ole Miss fans. He pretended to be someone he is not and he cheated on His wife and family behind a sharade of religion. I've been married 30 years and never once even thought about cheating on my wife even once let alone over and over again like he has done. So yea he is different than not just me but a lot of people
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:11 am to Tuscaloosa
I don't think anybody claims to be perfect and without sin.
He had to know he wasn't living what he was selling and defiant about. It isn't that he fell. The falls had been happening and he claimed everybody was full
of BS and unfairly persecuting him.
He had to know he wasn't living what he was selling and defiant about. It isn't that he fell. The falls had been happening and he claimed everybody was full
of BS and unfairly persecuting him.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:15 am to texastigerr
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I've been married 30 years and never once even thought about cheating on my wife even once let alone over and over again like he has done. So yea he is different than not just me but a lot of people
That's terrific. It seems you are fortunate enough to not struggle with sexual temptation, as most men do. But I'm sure you can think of some areas of your life that you're prone to mess up in. Your area of struggle is no better or worse than Freeze's - if we're talking about this from a faith perspective, as the OP addresses.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:16 am to tigerskin
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He had to know he wasn't living what he was selling and defiant about. It isn't that he fell. The falls had been happening and he claimed everybody was full of BS and unfairly persecuting him.
Completely agree with all of this.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:17 am to Tuscaloosa
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We're all in the same boat. All broken. Disgusting. In desperate need of a savior.
Speak for yourself.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:20 am to CapstoneGrad06
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I'm just always weary of any coach that wears it on their shoulders. More times than not, it seems, this is the outcome. Something nefarious.
Your next head football coach is going to be just like that. Maybe even worse. Unless he gets caught at something first. But still, get ready.......
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