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Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:38 pm to CFBFAN1121
You got a transcript of that interview? I'm not listening to 13 minutes of it. Exactly how does he debunk the wiretap claims?
Right. In that video he looks to be fiftyish. So he brought down the Bham bombers when he was a toddler?
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This dude is responsible for bringing down Olympic Park Bomber Eric Rudolph and the people responsible for the infamous Church bombing of the 4 little girls in Bham in the 60s
Right. In that video he looks to be fiftyish. So he brought down the Bham bombers when he was a toddler?
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:39 pm to crimsonsaint
Whoever uploaded the video screwed something up, it's like a four minute clip with seven minutes of nothingness.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:40 pm to Ross
quote:All that matters in an investigation is the allegation. . .when it comes to the court of opinion.
...?
The allegation becomes what happened, until overwhelmingly proven otherwise.
That is the way it has been since the beginning of the history of forever.
You say AU needs to be treated special.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:42 pm to Ross
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Innocent until proven guilty mentality > Guilty until proven innocent mentality.
If you're saying that it's better to place a defendant's fate in the hands of a judicial system than to place him in front of a crowd of people and let the volume of the boos decide his fate, then I agree.
Otherwise, you're fighting a losing battle. People have been forming personal opinions about civil, criminal and athletic cases ever since such the beginning of such cases.
Sure, it's sensational to decry those whose opinions do not favor your champion as a 'lynch mob'. It may even garner sympathy.
That doesn't make it any less dishonest. It's nothing more than an attack in kind.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:42 pm to crimsonsaint
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So he brought down the Bham bombers when he was a toddler?
He was appointed prosecutor in a trial a few yrs ago that brought a conviction in the case when it was reopened with new evidence. Since then, he's lost a round in court defending Larry Langford in his bribery scheme, and is now defending others involved in gov't fraud.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:43 pm to crimsonsaint
The trial was just a few years ago.
He's a lawyer for Haskell Slaughter in Birmingham... He doesn't exactly debunk the Milton McGregor thing, but it should be noted that if Milton McGregor goes down, Ronnie Gilley will likely be close behind. They are interconnected, and to assume he's an objective observer would be grossly naive.
He's a lawyer for Haskell Slaughter in Birmingham... He doesn't exactly debunk the Milton McGregor thing, but it should be noted that if Milton McGregor goes down, Ronnie Gilley will likely be close behind. They are interconnected, and to assume he's an objective observer would be grossly naive.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:43 pm to Bellabama
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They are interconnected, and to assume he's an objective observer would be grossly naive.
ding ding.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:43 pm to Roaad
I'd say that mentality is probably the desired option in every case of ever. Let opinions be crafted by evidence, circumstantial and otherwise, not by allegations.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:45 pm to cyde
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Sure, it's sensational to decry those whose opinions do not favor your champion as a 'lynch mob'. It may even garner sympathy.
I'd make an awesome bleeding heart.
But seriously, the power of the people to dismantle reputations is quite amazing.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:46 pm to Ross
quote:meh. Current attitudes have served society pretty well so far. . .
I'd say that mentality is probably the desired option in every case of ever.
quote:I'll write that down as soon as I find a place to stable my flying unicorn.
Let opinions be crafted by evidence, circumstantial and otherwise, not by allegations.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:47 pm to Ross
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Let opinions be crafted by evidence, circumstantial and otherwise, not by allegations.
So far, there are alot of circumstansial evidence that points towards guilty. As many Auburn fans have pointed out, it's all circumstantial, have they not?
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:47 pm to Ross
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But seriously, the power of the people to dismantle reputations is quite amazing.
It's amazing, it's unfortunate and it's an unavoidable fact of life.
I'd make an awesome cynic... oh, wait.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:48 pm to cyde
All I can say is this, You can not trust a defense attorney, they are completely full of shite and the only person in the courtroom lying more than them is the judge. Maybe federal judges are honest but I doubt it.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:48 pm to CFBFAN1121
This is a bit on the weak side.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:48 pm to Roaad
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meh. Current attitudes have served society pretty well so far. . .
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I'll write that down as soon as I find a place to stable my flying unicorn.
I've always been the idealist.
Of course prejudices will always exist, but the first step in being a rational human being is learning to set them aside and look at things objectively.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:48 pm to cyde
I pointed out to Tuna on page 3 of his sticky that the wire taps were in the spring for 38 days, I even gave the months which are also correct, and too, pointed out that didn't eliminate them as a possible factor. And sure, the lawyer has his reputation at stake when he says McGregor wasn't involved, but who is to say he doesn't know that wording of the denial can't be traced enough for him to stake his reputation on it. Plus, his entire reputation is not on it anyway. Anyway, if you listen closely to everything that was said when Finebum had him on, he alluded to several things I have heard about involving some other people. So I don't actually get the point of the thread missive.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:50 pm to BamaScoop
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All I can say is this, You can not trust a defense attorney, they are completely full of shite and the only person in the courtroom lying more than them is the judge. Maybe federal judges are honest but I doubt it.
All attorneys lie. Defense attorneys lie to get their guilty-arse defendant off the hook. Prosecutors lie because they're unwilling to admit a mistake, even if new evidence shows that they obviously sent an innocent man away.
Then there's all the other kinds.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 8:50 pm to cyde
I love how we both say we'll leave the thread, and both fail.
Not having the last word irks me, I can never really let it sit.
Not having the last word irks me, I can never really let it sit.
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