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re: Forbes’ “New Ivies” Public and Private Universities, 2026

Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:28 am to
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:28 am to
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First off, all universities are overrated and overpriced.


It is such a rip off. UF is 6k a year for undergrad, and I think that is too high. Some of these schools are 10 times that.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16608 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:43 am to
Rolle played for FSU, went on to be a Neurosurgeon I believe.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:49 am to
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Emory like Sewanee a place for the wealthy to send their average kids while sounding elite.




uh, bro, Emory's med school is like 6th in the world or something


ETA: okay it's 20th
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 7:51 am
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:49 am to
UF is a bargain at 6k, for those who can get in. About how much a state school should cost.
Posted by Raoul Stimulato
Hale Bopp Comet
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:55 am to
Fair enough, my friend!
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
22834 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:57 am to
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t is such a rip off. UF is 6k a year for undergrad, and I think that is too high. Some of these schools are 10 times that.

I have multiple degrees including one that cost $65k/year from a top ten school and outside of the strategic/generalized aspects of what was taught nearly everything has been made irrelevant by tech changes within 15 years.

So I spent $130k for a degree that’s 60% worthless outside of as a generalized “he graduated” certificate where the 60% I could’ve learned on my own online for basically nothing and been conveyed in a fraction of the time and effort it was in the first place.

We should be rebuilding our educational systems from the ground up to remove useless admins, create reeducation and retraining opportunities as AI and evolving needs make old degrees obsolete and to minimize tuition costs so grads aren’t paying off student loans instead of buying houses, starting families and investing.

Our current system is a disservice to everyone involved outside of the bloating and arrogant politicized administrators and teachers who profit at our collective expenses.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5000 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:58 am to
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UF is a bargain at 6k, for those who can get in. About how much a state school should cost.


I live in Florida, and everyone I know who has gone to UF has transferred after a year.

I’m not buying that Florida is some top tier institution either. Selective? Yes, but a friend’s daughter had over 1,500 kids in their freshman chemistry class.

The chemistry class was so big 90% had to take the class online. But, I guess that is what $6k a year tuition looks like:
Posted by Gunny Hartman
Member since Jan 2021
1078 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:33 am to
People tend to flip out over published private school tuition, but few actually pay those startling $80-$100k+ annual rates. Most of the kids who actually enroll in those private schools get significant discounts. They have those published rates so that the richest kids can pay the bills while lots of kids from lower to middle income families get an almost free or free ride. The "elite" private schools usually offer little to no merit aid but are very generous with need-based aid. Very much a socialist scheme, really.
Posted by Beau Fontenot
Member since Oct 2018
779 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:39 am to
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I live in Florida, and everyone I know who has gone to UF has transferred after a year.

I’m not buying that Florida is some top tier institution either. Selective? Yes, but a friend’s daughter had over 1,500 kids in their freshman chemistry class.



Definitely a good school, but their ascent in the rankings is largely due to the amount of money they poured into research. That doesn't affect first and second year students in any meaningful way.
Posted by Beau Fontenot
Member since Oct 2018
779 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:52 am to
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I have multiple degrees including one that cost $65k/year from a top ten school and outside of the strategic/generalized aspects of what was taught nearly everything has been made irrelevant by tech changes within 15 years.


I received a classical education in college, and I strongly believe in going to college for that purpose. I went to grad school and thought I would become a professor at some point, but I ended up in technology. Still, my education benefited me in tech.

I founded my own cloud computing company in 2003 and managed it until its sale in 2012. Now I'm mostly involved in network security.

We can teach people more about the technology business once you're on board with us. I can get you through IP fundamentals, coding and even put you on a CCIE track. What I can't teach you is how to be a creative thinker or spend time teaching you the broader view of the world you gain with a liberal arts education. We typically hire very smart people, regardless of degree.

Years ago, I was at a fundraiser at a very wealthy person's home. He had a collection of Lautrec works. I knew the works thanks to some time spent in art history classes. He was quite impressed that I knew about it and after our long conversation, he invested during a subsequent capital raise.

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
22834 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:01 am to
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I received a classical education in college, and I strongly believe in going to college for that purpose.

There’s absolutely value in that, but it shouldn’t cost $42k a year for an undergrad to receive it at a borderline top 100 school like Alabama, particularly when it’s being conveyed in a “classroom” that holds 700 people being lectured by a TA that barely speaks English.

I can get a video lecture from a world class professor at Harvard or Oxford for free that would convey the same concepts without the ridiculous tuition, but I actually think the biggest advantage to undergrad is the socialization and transition to independent living so I’m not necessarily arguing that all remote learning is the way to go either.

Posted by Beau Fontenot
Member since Oct 2018
779 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:10 am to
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There’s absolutely value in that, but it shouldn’t cost $42k a year for an undergrad to receive it at a borderline top 100 school like Alabama, particularly when it’s being conveyed in a “classroom” that holds 700 people being lectured by a TA that barely speaks English.


100% agreement. Until you get to upper division courses, you're not seeing the superstar professors in a department.

My son went to Tennessee because of the cost. He had offers from solid schools that cost a lot. The scholarship programs in Tennessee and his scores made UT nearly cost free. And it didn't hurt him one bit as he received a very generous scholarship to Vandy law and landed a job with a top firm on the east coast. I would rate his education at UT as excellent.
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 9:16 am
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
7437 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:23 am to
Kids go to Sewanee because the experience is completely unmatched by any other school. There is nothing to compare it to. It’s a small town campus on 40k acres with amazing scenery. And it is THE university of the south
Posted by Jrtt
Dallas
Member since Apr 2020
287 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:25 am to
A fool will always be a fool. He is eaten up with it. Lol
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
49497 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:42 am to
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I live in Florida, and everyone I know who has gone to UF has transferred after a year.

I’m not buying that Florida is some top tier institution either. Selective? Yes, but a friend’s daughter had over 1,500 kids in their freshman chemistry class.

The chemistry class was so big 90% had to take the class online. But, I guess that is what $6k a year tuition looks like:


UF has a 97% freshman retention rate, so you have no clue what you are talking about.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16608 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 6:06 pm to
Its not hard to understand, they have 2 to 3 times the kids to select from making them more competitive academically.
Posted by Arkyologist
The Delta
Member since Feb 2023
422 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 6:33 pm to
Some great schools - most way too liberal but still outstanding
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
356 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:08 pm to
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TU (big city commuter school feel)




cant help yourself

there are 40,000+ UT students living on or within a mile of UT Campus

West Campus alone has 25-30k Students
7-8k live in Dorms on Campus


2x Texas Ex here. Aggie wasn't all wrong. I lived in three segments of West and North campus. Never felt anything like Auburn as far as being a college community.
Posted by Themicah86
Member since Jun 2023
2824 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:17 pm to
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UNC in that category


Shouldn't creating a major just so you can put a basketball team on the court and getting caught doing it put you on like a 10 year ban list then you have to make your way back up? The administration let that happen.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7791 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:32 am to
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It is such a rip off. UF is 6k a year for undergrad, and I think that is too high.
Are you kidding me? Too high? Really? I paid $2,500/month for daycare. UF is dirt cheap. Even room and board is cheap. I can’t think of too many schools cheaper. Maybe you know some.
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