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Football Conference strength, no longer cyclical

Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:40 am
Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
1285 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:40 am
B1G has sucked for years, their recruiting territory sucks and they just lost their only power program with Urban's retirement. They are rich though.

ACC has to live on SEC leftovers for the most part. No depth typically after Clemson or FSU which aren't even their state flagships.

B12 is full of little brothers skimming off OU and Texas. Horrible recruiting rankings shows up in terrible defenses.

Pac 12 is just bad, don't care about football.

I can't think of a reason why the SEC domination of football won't continue and even increase.

Hopefully Sankey can leverage this into good things for the SEC members in the next round of media contracts and can separate the SEC from other conferences.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 5:30 am to
It’s been the best conference since 06.
So i don’t see where it’s going to change anytime soon
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6633 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 6:14 am to
The SEC was founded in the early 30's. The SEC has had teams win the national title in football every decade it has been in existence, and most times several national titles during a decade (30's- 3, 40's-2, 50's-3, 60's-3, 70's-3, 80's-1, 90's-3, 00's- 5, 10's- 5). Future SEC teams were winning national titles in the 1910's and 1920's as well.

This is nothing new for the SEC

Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
9002 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 6:16 am to
You guys make fun of us for how long it's been. But if it weren't for that one team, that streak would be broken.
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The SEC has had teams win the national title in football every decade it has been in existence
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:17 am to
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You guys make fun of us for how long it's been. But if it weren't for that one team, that streak would be broken.



and it may have been broken if you actually had to play the #2, #3, or #4 team in the SEC that year
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17004 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:20 am to
It's been the best conference since 2003
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90582 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:28 am to
TV exposure for every game played by a P5 team ruined the other conferences.

Good players want exposure so they reach the NFL. Before they televised almost all games all the good players left home to go to blue bloods like OSU, Michigan, FSU, Nebraska, Texas, Alabama etc because only they played on TV.

But most top players live in SEC country and always have. Now that they can get on TV playing at Auburn, Ole Miss, LSU, Arkansas, MSU etc they choose to stay closer to home. As a result the SEC top to bottom became much stronger while other conferences struggle for top talent
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3364 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:12 am to
The big 12 was better from 2000 - 2009 top to bottom including Mizzou and A&M. The main thing that has changed since about 2009 is the media narrative. I mean Florida is a top 10 team every year FFS. That shows you the issue right there.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:15 am to
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The big 12 was better from 2000 - 2009 top to bottom including Mizzou and A&M. The main thing that has changed since about 2009 is the media narrative.


Yea that's it. The SEC is built on a mirage. You cracked the code.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7505 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:17 am to
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ACC has to live on SEC leftovers for the most part. No depth typically after Clemson or FSU which aren't even their state flagships.



Curious comment considering the OP's team just signed a Clemson (ACC) Leftover to head their offense.
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3364 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:18 am to
Not a mirage. The sec has one or two of the best teams in football almost every year since 2010 It’s the rest of the teams I have an issue with.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 8:19 am
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7505 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:55 am to
Interesting that you picked 2006 as your start "baw".

Alabama is responsible for 5 of the national championships.

Auburn got one with Rent-a-Cam Newton

Urban Meyer got 2 at UF

Lesticles got one with Saban's players...

So we have 4 programs with one truly dominating since 2006...Is the SEC a 4-team conference? I see 4 teams dominating and I will even include UGA as an emerging program.

What's the rest of the league done aside from riding the coat tails of these elite programs?

The SEC would be a very pedestrian conference if it didn't have Alabama as it's anchor. If you look at the history of national championships prior to Nick Saban entering the league the SEC was merely a voice in the choir. So you can thank Nick Saban and Alabama for your success.
Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
1285 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:32 am to
There were 8 in the final rankings which I believe is a record high mark. They have more elite teams and more good teams, and a glance at this year's recruiting rankings shows they are as dominate as ever.

I think a poster above has it right about TV exposure keeping more home. Also there has been some reverse migration of people that left the South pre civil rights era moving back.

Only way I see to revert is for the SEC to hire a bunch of bad coaches and other conferences to find great coaches. Seems unlikely.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:36 am to
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CU_Tigers4life


the first year we (the SEC) won it to start the streak baw.

Actually I have no fricking clue and just threw shite to see if it would stick.


It's all just a beat around the bush and has no significance on my team because we were 7-5 this year and in the good years when we won 11 games we fricked up in some stupid game that ruined our season and a chance at the SEC.

Posted by tigerburningbright75
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2011
1063 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:37 am to
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The big 12 was better from 2000 - 2009 top to bottom including Mizzou and A&M. The main thing that has changed since about 2009 is the media narrative. I mean Florida is a top 10 team every year FFS. That shows you the issue right there.

Not a chance. The Big Twelve has never been better than the SEC. Look at all those Cotton Bowl games that the SEC won over the Big Twelve runner-up during that decade.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
9002 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:44 am to
We played #4. Don't know what you're looking at.
Posted by tigerburningbright75
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2011
1063 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:45 am to
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Interesting that you picked 2006 as your start "baw
What year do you want to start?
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So we have 4 programs with one truly dominating since 2006...Is the SEC a 4-team conference? I see 4 teams dominating and I will even include UGA as an emerging program.
The SEC has 9 programs who are among the Top 25 in the all-time AP poll. The Big Ten has 6. The ACC has 4. The Pac-Twelve has 3. The Big Twelve has 2. There is one independent (Notre Dame).[quote]
Posted by tigerburningbright75
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2011
1063 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:49 am to
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he SEC would be a very pedestrian conference if it didn't have Alabama as it's anchor. If you look at the history of national championships prior to Nick Saban entering the league the SEC was merely a voice in the choir. So you can thank Nick Saban and Alabama for your success.

You could say that about any conference. All I know is that Tennessee, LSU, Georgia, Auburn, Florida, Texas A&M,Ole Miss and Arkansas have all won recognized national championships in their history. That's nine different programs. No other conference can match that.....especially yours.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:16 am to
Football is religion in the Deep South and it has the highest concentration of black folks so why would the SEC not remain the strongest?
Posted by MSHawg1
Bad-assistan
Member since Jun 2018
5046 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:18 am to
You're Welcome Missouri. You asked to be in the Big-ten. Yet here you are in the Southeastern Conference
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