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re: Florida players opting out?

Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:12 pm to
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My POINT being was that having attrition that piles up in one position can kill ya.
EVERYBODY is in the same position this year with COVID so don't give me this "global pandemic" bullshite



You gonna bring the same energy if UGA players opt out?
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:18 pm to
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Toney

this man drawing social security yet? Feels like forever
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:26 pm to
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You gonna bring the same energy if UGA players opt out?


What "energy?"

And ya still don't get the point.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:28 pm to
Carter is replaceable. Toney is replaceable.

Copeland and Grimes are not.

We can't have our three best receivers out or we are fricked. Our back ups are either young and inexperienced, or veteran three stars who've made no impact.

It's a dumb stance though. Grimes and Carter especially are potentially draft prospects that could improve their stock substantially. Sitting out will cost them a lot of money in all likelihood.
Posted by RT58
Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
3674 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:35 pm to
Regardless. Georgia OWNS FLORIDA.
With or without them.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:46 pm to
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It's a dumb stance though. Grimes and Carter especially are potentially draft prospects that could improve their stock substantially. Sitting out will cost them a lot of money in all likelihood


I think most of em will eventually come to their senses and come back.

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We can't have our three best receivers out or we are fricked


Throw in 2 key backups and you'll in our shoes from last year.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 7:56 am to
Karma is a bitch. Am I right mutts?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:06 am to
Did they make it back to practice yet?
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
11935 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:10 am to
Sorry this thread chapped your arse so bad.
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 8:11 am
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:18 am to
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So Vandy has no o line and we have no receivers. Maybe we can work something out?





A traveling SEC All Star Team, going about the country side in a bus playing games against company teams across the south....I like it...sounds like something that could've happened at the turn of the previous century...some old school football with leather helmets and no face masks, with photos taken of the teams with some WAG lying on the ground resting on an elbow.....
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:52 am to
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Has any coach ever sat these players down and showed them how much money the average student is charged for college? Tuition, housing, meal plan, books...not to mention the free tutors and preferential scheduling they get, the top of the shelf coaching and strength training they receive?

“unpaid college athletes” is as much as a farce as “peaceful protesters”.



Probably not nearly as often as folks in the player's family and circle have sat them down and shown them how much money they are generating by being part of the football program at UF and how all of that hard work was being used to finance the equestrian team...and of course pay coaches multi million dollar salaries.


These guys may not be overly book smart as many have been stroked along through high school so they could play football, and they are young so they ain't overly experienced, but they ain't stupid....they understand fully that they are at UF to play football....getting an education is not what UF is interested in them doing. If it were they would've been able to get in without football and would've received some financial aid that wouldn't leave them in debt if that was the root of UFs interest in them. While UF does indeed make a very good effort to see to it that their football players get a degree the message is clear that staying academically eligible is only important in that it means you can play football which is why you are on campus. The message is clear....football is you job....to do that job you have this pesky thing called education you have to take care of....but there are all sorts of ways that the university sees to it that this happens and it ain't exactly getting an education but remaining eligible. The message is abundantly clear to these guys. Its this way at all football schools at the level Florida plays.....when you tell 20 year old he has to be academically eligible and then enroll him in classes where the prof is keen on keeping him academically eligible or in classes where his mere presence is enough to bring down a solid B the message is heard LOUD AND CLEAR...so while it is definitely possible to earn a degree playing football and actually learn something in the process that will be useful when football is done there is another path offered and a lot of these people have never known anything other than being pampered and coddled along so they could play football and are not equipped to take advantage of the opportunity they have. It is a smoke screen in more cases than it ought to be....
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:57 am to
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They don't care. There is a disturbing sense of entitlement going on right now. These players don't realize that college football fans would still be fans if every team was full of intramural players. College football, more than any other sport, is about so much more than the game on Saturday.


CFB would still exist if it were intramural....it just wouldn't be on TV from Thursday until late Saturday night from August through January....students and alumni would be in the stands and even some local folks who just love football but some other football product that would pay a salary would fill the void eventually. Its a basic function of the free market...the demand for the product is blatantly obvious, the capital is in place, the raw materials are in place and the labor is in place...short of some sort of un-natural influence on that market, such as the current manifestation of CFB, there is no way that could be stopped from happening.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:59 am to
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Did they make it back to practice yet?


No Gator players, to my surprise, have opted out.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:02 am to
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Cocktail party went from a 7 point win to 17


May be a 7 point game in total...someone winning 5-2....UGA is gonna lose players also...in fact just did lose one most of us thought was integral to our success this season and the replacement isn't cleared to play yet unless I am mistaken and the next in line has been questionable if he would ever play the game again....this is going to happen to a bunch of teams and it ain't going to end this season. The players are fed up with their labor financing the women's equestrian team while most of them end up with nothing tangible from their efforts because they were 20 and stupid and did not take advantage of the opportunity, even if they do earn a degree, and the adults in the system were more than happy if they were focused on football and performing on the field and would see to it that they got by barely in the classroom.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19461 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:04 am to
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A triple aaa baseball player makes $15,000 a year

The top class d league player makes $25,000 a year

A minor league football player with 50-70 guys on a team would probably be 10.000-15,000 at the most. There is no billion dollar tv contract for minor league football There is no interest ther


Look, I agree with your point, but I'm not sure using that analogy works. LSU football for example brings in millions of dollars more than Triple AAA baseball, NBA D League and Minor League Football combined.

Their desires to be paid are based on the revenue they help produce.
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 9:05 am
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11456 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:07 am to
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Regardless. Georgia OWNS FLORIDA.


If winning 3 straight and 6 of the last 10, or 11 out of the last 30 is owning, then you are correct.

The mutts took advantage of coaching problems at UF when Meyer bailed, but that has been corrected and the series is about to get really interesting.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:08 am to
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Guess a bunch of guys didn’t think we’d actually get to camp?

Interesting that so many teams are having opt outs now.



I think it has more to do with the huge outbreaks on campuses when students returned.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11456 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:10 am to
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Sorry this thread chapped your arse so bad.


It was just comical to see how closely mutt fans keep up with issues at UF.

Who will UG's starting QB be again?
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:11 am to
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Tuition, housing, meal plan, books...not to mention the free tutors and preferential scheduling they get, the top of the shelf coaching and strength training they receive?


Exactly, pay them and take away all these amenities and make them pay for them



It may well be that they may be offered the choice between a salary or the items listed or some combination of all. A five star recruit with a real shot at the NFL may be offered all of the above....but a two star kid whose daddy played for UGA may be more than satisfied with the scholly as it is today....


The fix is obvious...let boosters pay their salaries. Seriously. They are doing so anyway to some degree or another...just let it be out in the open. Instill some honesty into the corrupt system that exists today. Keep the schooly system as it is, and let boosters pay players. Encourage it. It is either already happening or almost everyone thinks it is...I am in the latter group....what would be the harm? There ain't no parity now...there are only about what, 20 schools any given year with any realistic shot at catching fire ala LSU last season and winning it all? In reality it is 1-3 teams every year and they are the same ones year in and year out....but a place like TAM with its alumni base???? All of a sudden Clemson and Alabama has some new shite to contend with.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25601 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:12 am to
Why doesnt the nfl offer them?

It would make logical sense that an employer would be looking for talented employees that can help the employment goals and objectives.
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