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re: Florida is about to return to 1990's-level glory

Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:37 pm to
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So SEC only counts titles after 1992 ?


Before divisional play, and after SEC teams were integrated, UGA won only 3 SEC championships outright, and those were the Herschel years.

I'm an Alabama fan and even I have suggested before that I was ok with counting championships since integration. I don't really give a shite what UGA did in the Howdy Doody years.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:40 pm to
Even the 90’s were an odd period of transition to spurrier air assault. Innovation like that is what uf needs to do well.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6487 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:43 pm to
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Even the 90’s were an odd period of transition to spurrier air assault.




and that's a pertinent point. Not only did divisional play begin in 1992, but it can pretty accurately be considered the modern era of SEC football.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:48 pm to
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Before divisional play, and after SEC teams were integrated, UGA won only 3 SEC championships outright, and those were the Herschel years.



Any other qualifiers?Please give me the exact timeline of when championships count and when they don't.Why would integration matter anyway if we're counting SECC's?

So are all of Bamas NC discounted pre integration and are you the sole arbiter of ALL championships claimed?

UGA won an SECC outright in '76 BTW...does that count or not count since most the team was white?
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6487 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:50 pm to
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Why would integration matter


Surely you are joking

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are you the sole arbiter of ALL championships claimed?



yes

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UGA won an SECC outright in '76


co champs with Kentucky
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:50 pm to
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but it can pretty accurately be considered the modern era of SEC football.


It can?Why not 2002? '96? '00? '86?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:51 pm to
They should have never left.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27300 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:55 pm to
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co champs with Kentucky



They went 4-2 and we went 5-1 and beat them 31-7.On what planet is that a co champ?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27300 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:58 pm to
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co champs with Kentucky



They went 4-2 and we went 5-1 and beat them 31-7.On what planet is that a co champ?


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Why would integration matter
IN THE SEC.

If all white teams were playing were playing other all white teams what would in matter IN THE SEC.

Obviously different on a national scale.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:59 pm to
Florida, quit letting Georgia cakewalk into the SECCG and then will break bread and talk.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6487 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 7:01 pm to
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co champs with Kentucky



They went 4-2 and we went 5-1 and beat them 31-7.On what planet is that a co champ?


1976-77 Georgia/Kentucky

The official website of the SEC
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25878 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 8:17 pm to
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Clemson proves you don't need top three classes. Just good coaching and a good system.

Clemson has way better players than Florida. QB in particular is just a massive, massive difference.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32903 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:36 am to
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I like us against anybody we play against. I don’t care how good your recruiting classes are.


All because of a win vs a depleted and disappointed Michigan?
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:38 am to
I’m about to win the Mega-Millions jackpot. You heard it here first.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32903 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:39 am to
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Since divisional play UF has 7 SEC titles to only 3 for UGA.


Uf loves the 90’s. Since spurrier left, it’s 3-2 uga.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:58 am to
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All because of a win vs a depleted and disappointed Michigan?


Because we had 500 yards of offense our last 4 games, hung 40 in our last 3 (and kneeled at the 1 yard line to not score 42 on USCe), and because of our head coach.

And I’m a Gator fan. Florida has the expectations of sec and national championships and were clearly on that track. We have a great coach that developed the team and improved immensely as the season went on.

Georgia fans act like it’s some sort of shock that Florida fans are confident going into next year. We finished the last 1/3 of Mullen’s first season hanging 40+ on everybody we played. We finished by throttling a top 10 team. Georgia finished by blowing another lead to Alabama and getting out-physicalled and dominated against Texas. Does Kirby get a pass for his players not being ready to play? Georgia fans are hilarious.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 10:00 am
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:07 am to
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I think it would be fricken hilarious if Florida won another natty before Georgia does. Dear football gods, please let this happen.


UG's window is closing for winning the East, Mullen's rebuild at UF is farther ahead than expected. They might have one more year before talent is close enough that superior coaching will move the Gators back ahead of the mutts. Beating Bama is the tougher task.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32903 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:08 am to
So the mismatched bowls plus a comeback win over a depleted sc, a win over Idaho, a win over a bad Florida state team, and uga losing a close game to bama?

Confidence is one thing, but you seem to be taking it to another level, and for reasons that aren’t exactly strong.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46493 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:22 am to
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Georgia continues to separate itself from the rest of the #SEC East.

(Combined 2018-2019)
#UGA- 6,524 (11 5*, 30 4*)
#UF- 4,566 (1 5*, 28 4*)
#TN- 4,221 (1 5*, 22 3*)
#SC- 4,112 (1 5*, 17 4*)
#UK- 3,328 (0 5*, 7 4*)
#MZ- 3,170 (0 5*, 3 4*)
#Vandy- 2,864 (0 5*, 5 4*)


Talent gap isn’t closing nearly the way Florida fans are thinking it is. Mathematically speaking, the gap between Florida and Vandy is smaller than it is between Florida and Georgia. Should UGA continue to miss its shot on a title over the next few years, recruiting will likely take a hit and Florida could sneak up the ladder but that’s going to take more than just this year.

Further, this whole “Mullen is a better coach than Smart” assumption is amusing. Last I checked, Kirby has won the conference and a playoff game whereas Mullen hasn’t even made it to Atlanta. Florida is going to get better over the next few years, sure, but who’s to say Georgia has stalled out at its current level and is just waiting for Dan and UF to catch us?
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 10:23 am
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:23 am to
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So the mismatched bowls plus a comeback win over a depleted sc, a win over Idaho, a win over a bad Florida state team, and uga losing a close game to bama?

Confidence is one thing, but you seem to be taking it to another level, and for reasons that aren’t exactly strong




Beating the frick out of a top 10 Michigan team- worse than they had been beaten all season

Beating the frick out of the instate rival on the road- no matter how bad they were

Hanging 500 yards of offense in 4 straight games (signaling progress in the offense from the beginning and first half of the season)

All of these are very strong reasons for confidence. It’s wild that Georgia fans are completely disregarding what Florida looked like from the second half of the South Carolina game through the Michigan beat down. Everybody sees it except for y’all.

And you’re so quick to disregard Florida’s dominating win over Michigan, almost using it in your argument like it was a loss for Florida, while you coincide that argument by brushing off Georgia’s loss to Texas as “we weren’t interested in playing”. While that probably was the case, is that not Kirby’s fault? Is that not on coaching? Do Georgia fans give passes for getting embarrassed on national TV? If you do, you’re not the program you think you are.

Again, this all contributes to Florida’s confidence going into next year, but the biggest source of confidence comes from the clear improvements and steps forward that our offense made under Feleipe through the end of the season. The culmination of that, along with Georgia being so beatable and looking so average against Alabama and Texas is what has Florida fans thinking winning the east is possible next year. And it’s not just Florida fans, a lot of media outlets are projecting top 10 for Florida preseason, and saying that the Florida-Georgia game is the game of the year and will help decide the east. There’s nothing outlandish or delusional about where Florida fans stand.
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