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re: Florida 2020 schedule

Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:44 pm to
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Given how great of a developer Dan Mullen is supposed to be and the problems with McElwain's recruiting and S&C, this would seem to be welcome turnover. Given yours and many Gators' claims of Kirby only being successful with Richt's recruits and then being a terrible game coach and developer, seems like 2020 should be a gimme then, no?


I know you think you've got a zinger here but our two most productive WRs last year were...

Transfers.

And a lot of Kirby's success was having a ton of juniors and seniors for his second year and a laughably easy East.

The opposite is true for Mullen. He took over a 4 - 7 team with zero identity and a coach who had given up before the last season ended. Richt was fired at 9 - 3 and Kirby inherited an extremely talented but young team.

I don't know what it is with Georgia posters and not understanding context.

2016 Georgia was ripe for the picking, 2018 Florida was a complete goddamn disaster and it's not even comparable.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:06 am to
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I know you think you've got a zinger here

... I'm more or less serious. If Gator fans are correct that Dan is an exceptional developer of talent, then the turnover from worse players to guys that Dan and his staff brought in and has coached up should in theory be better than players that Kirby brought in and coached up, no?

I'm not talking about year 1. I'm talking about year 3 for Mullen and year 5 for Smart.

What context am I missing here?

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2018 Florida was a complete goddamn disaster and it's not even comparable.


A good chunk of the team was suspended the prior season... UF wasn't as bad off as the record indicated and many of you all even said as much when Mullen was hired. 2015 Georgia also was probably the worst 10 win team I've seen in recent memory. I'm not equating the situations, but it's pretty damn disingenuous to imply that Smart inherited a playoff ready team while Mullen inherited garbage juice smoothies.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32827 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:24 am to
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I don't know what it is with Georgia posters and not understanding context.


Coming from the guy who still doesnt understand the context of the Kirby quotes from after the SECCG, so dont act like you are immune.

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2016 Georgia was ripe for the picking, 2018 Florida was a complete goddamn disaster and it's not even comparable.


You have already proven you dont know much about the UGA roster situation going into 2016, and you certainly downplay the impact of the suspensions, injuries, and an easy game not played for UF 2017.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 1:20 am to
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I'm more or less serious. If Gator fans are correct that Dan is an exceptional developer of talent, then the turnover from worse players to guys that Dan and his staff brought in and has coached up should in theory be better than players that Kirby brought in and coached up, no?


I prefer Mullen's players, but we're thin at the positions because there weren't players recruited behind them, especially last year.

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A good chunk of the team was suspended the prior season... UF wasn't as bad off as the record indicated and many of you all even said as much when Mullen was hired.


Yeah, Jordan Scarlett came back and some backups.

It wasn't like some incredible players came back.

In the end, as I said: Our two best receivers were transfers and it wasn't even close. McElwain's team was weak.

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but it's pretty damn disingenuous to imply that Smart inherited a playoff ready team while Mullen inherited garbage juice smoothies.


Georgia fans are in a staunch minority with the idea that Kirby inherited dogshit and made them incredible.

Georgia runs itself and you're proving it by saying shite like "that was the worst ten win team I've ever seen..."

Imagine bitching about ten wins. The point proves itself.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32827 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:12 am to
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Georgia fans are in a staunch minority with the idea that Kirby inherited dog shite and made them incredible.



What this means is that the vast majority have no clue about the 2016 roster.

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Yeah, Jordan Scarlett came back and some backups.....Our two best receivers were transfers and it wasn't even close. McElwain's team was weak.


So a clearly improved roster from the 2017 team, which was awfully close to a 7-5 record.

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"that was the worst ten win team I've ever seen..."


The only 10 win team to go unranked. That team was awfully close to a 5-7 record.

Might want to dig a little deeper with your football analysis rather than rely on final records.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 2:15 am
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:00 am to
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You should have went all out 2-10


Gary, Gary, Gary.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30060 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:23 am to
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Imagine bitching about ten wins. The point proves itself.


We listened to it plenty from Gator fans about Muschamp.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:26 am to
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I prefer Mullen's players, but we're thin at the positions because there weren't players recruited behind them, especially last year.


We're not talking about this year, we're talking about next year. Kirby went 11-1 in year 3 and took Alabama to the wire in the SECCG. I don't recall how many Seniors were on the roster last year, but it wasn't a big percentage of starters. Baker, Gaillard, Walker for sure... some depth guys at LB/S?

If UF is thin in year 3 under Mullen, that's more on Mullen than it is on Mac. He'll have had 2 complete recruiting cycles plus his transition class. That's up to 75 guys he could have taken, kept on the roster, and developed.

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Yeah, Jordan Scarlett came back and some backups.

It wasn't like some incredible players came back.

In the end, as I said: Our two best receivers were transfers and it wasn't even close. McElwain's team was weak.


Our starting LT in year 1 under Kirby was a Grad transfer from Rhode Island. Our best Safety for the last 2 years has been a transfer from Tulsa. One of our starting WR and 2 "starting" TEs will almost definitely be grad transfers this year. Every team is taking advantage of transfers... UF didn't have a monopoly on that last year.

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Georgia fans are in a staunch minority with the idea that Kirby inherited dogshit and made them incredible.


Who said it was "dog shite"? There is a world of fricking distance between "playoff ready" and "dog shite"... The roster had SIGNIFICANT holes, notably lacked upper class leadership/talent due to the departures from the 2013 debacle of a recruiting class... Any UGA fan who can't acknowledge those *facts* is probably not very knowledgeable in general about roster building and is more likely to be the kind of casual fan who just runs with "Woooo UGA #1, Woooo!" There's room for all types, but if you're wasting time arguing or discussing the state of a roster in 2016 with an ultra casual fan, it says more about you than the other person. It would be like me asking reel or TJ for an objective analysis...
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Imagine bitching about ten wins.

Imagine... McElwain had a 10 win season, followed by a 9 win season with a rent a win displaced... And before the 2017 football season, all we heard was bitching by gators... well before the season went to shite.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:28 am to
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We listened to it plenty from Gator fans about Muschamp.


To be fair to Gators, Champ had an 11 win season in 2012 and I don't recall Gators bitching about it too much. They were unhappy about the tie-breaker and UGA going to the SECCG, but I don't recall them being dissatisfied with the season. The wheels kinda fell off after that for him though. As noted above though, they essentially had back to back 10 win seasons (they lost the Presbyterian game in order to reschedule the LSU hurricane game - and had 9 wins), and were bitching incessantly...
Posted by AshleySchaeffer
Lake Placid, Fl
Member since Sep 2015
613 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:29 am to
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fibonaccisquared
Did someone make a poop swastika on your trailer home? Because lord are you triggered
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:33 am to
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Did someone make a poop swastika on your trailer home? Because lord are you triggered


You must be new here...

Take a look through this thread and then give us specific examples about what it is that I'm supposedly triggered about... I can wait.

Typing out a logically sound response to someone else's view is hardly "triggered". I'm sorry if basic reasoning is no longer part of the core curriculum in Gainesville. Thanks for playing but maybe take a round or two in the D-leagues first.
Posted by AshleySchaeffer
Lake Placid, Fl
Member since Sep 2015
613 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:34 am to
Well well well. What an advantageous schedule we have here. Confidence with a young team will do wonders going into 2021.

Would make for a healthy team for the WLOCP.

Win or lose that game, uga will still be irrelevant like they have for 40 years.
Posted by AshleySchaeffer
Lake Placid, Fl
Member since Sep 2015
613 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:50 am to
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Thanks for playing but maybe take a round or two in the D-leagues first.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:51 am to
I'll take that as a no, and an inability to respond cogently.
Posted by AshleySchaeffer
Lake Placid, Fl
Member since Sep 2015
613 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:57 am to
I don’t know why you’re putting the emoji of two people drinking before 10 am. Are you ok? Do you have a drinking problem? It’s ok to talk about this to someone.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:10 am to
Yikes... Inability to offer up a reasoned response and resorts to gifs and then questioning emojis. Straws, come get your goober, they got out of the playpen.
Posted by AshleySchaeffer
Lake Placid, Fl
Member since Sep 2015
613 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:14 am to
#prayforfibonaccisquared
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41238 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:20 am to
Number of Georgia posts in the Florida schedule thread?
14

Number of Georgia posts in the Georgia schedule thread?
11

Number of Florida posts in the Florida schedule thread?
15 (this makes 16)

Number of Florida posts in the Georgia schedule thread?
0

Have a nice day everyone!
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32827 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:22 am to
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listened to it plenty from Gator fans about Muschamp.


I think you mean McElwain. Most gators weren’t happy with him despite the 10 win teams. Oddly, Straws was one of his biggest defenders, even through much of 2017.
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
2540 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:28 am to
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Georgia fans are in a staunch minority with the idea that Kirby inherited dogshit and made them incredible. Georgia runs itself and you're proving it by saying shite like "that was the worst ten win team I've ever seen..." Imagine bitching about ten wins. The point proves itself.


We weren't exactly dogshit....but we weren't all that, either. The o-line was in piss-poor shape, the QB was an inexperienced freshman who made a lot of freshman mistakes, and the defense was learning a new scheme. As far as 2015 goes, we won 10, but this was also a team that had to go to OT to beat Ga. Southern, for crying out loud. They were about the worst 10-win team I ever saw, and they finished unranked...so apparently, the experts thought UGA was dogshit at the end of 2015, too.
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