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re: FiveThirtyEight's Projected First Round Winners

Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:21 am to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:21 am to
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People seem to think if a team with an 80 percent chance of winning loses, then the math is bad. Could just be the 1 in 5 scenario happened.



Americans are bad at math and logic.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18193 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:27 am to
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39.62%- Arkansas


Frickkk, Butler is a tough 1st round game.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15680 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:30 am to
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Americans are bad at math and logic.




Not true. Just a vocal minority.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:32 am to
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Americans are bad at math and logic.


You should watch common core videos
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15673 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:36 am to
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They hadn't factored in Russia in the algorithm.


Lol what exactly do you think the Russians did? No one can ever answer this question with detail.
Posted by JBearden
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2011
2661 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:37 am to
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Americans are bad at math and logic


We dumb.....odds n math n stuff is the devil.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15673 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:38 am to
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Same website got every state right in the 2012 election


OoOoOoH an incumbent election with a charismatic sitting pres
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 11:55 am
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37309 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:38 am to
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Arkansas are yall gonna do anything or did I really screw up putting you in my Elite 8?


I'm a homer and I'm not going to have us going to the elite 8 on mine.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24897 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:43 am to
They should have these on bottom of the screen the during a game. Would be incredibly interesting.

Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:47 am to
ESPN was doing something similar with the BPI chance to win during the sec tournament.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15680 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:47 am to
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Lol what exactly do you think the Russians did? No one can ever answer this question with detail.


1. They hacked the email of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton and the DNC server

2. They created fake Facebook/Twitter accounts to spread disinformation

3. They worked with the Trump campaign at the very least in an attempt to given them op research on Clinton but the full extent is not know.,
Posted by icheerforgeorgia
Member since Nov 2011
2010 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:52 am to
Every news site predicted Hillary would win. Odds don't mean inevitabilities.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15673 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:58 am to
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They hacked the email of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton and the DNC server


Did they? Also, this happened very early on, so 538’s polling sample surely included this.

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They created fake Facebook/Twitter accounts to spread disinformation


Did they? What, like 200 accounts? That’s what turned the rust belt!!

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They worked with the Trump campaign at the very least in an attempt to given them op research on Clinton but the full extent is not know.,

Did they??? That sounds pretty serious. I can’t wait to see the charges this lengthy Mueller investigation turns up!
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17949 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:00 pm to
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1. They hacked the email of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton and the DNC server 2. They created fake Facebook/Twitter accounts to spread disinformation


So, they did the same things as the Clinton campaign?

Hacked e-mails, spreading of false info. I bet they would have given Putin the questions to a televised debate beforehand.

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3. They worked with the Trump campaign at the very least in an attempt to given them op research on Clinton but the full extent is not know.,




Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:17 pm to
Confine this to the lunacy that is Politcal Talk board. Surprised they all haven't turned into gay frogs at this point.
Posted by BiscuitEater
Maroon Nation
Member since Sep 2010
311 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:31 pm to
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They were one of the only ones who said it wasn't in the bag for Hilary and wrote a piece on it too


Not quite. They still gave Hill a 71.4 chance of winning while they gave Trump a 28.6% chance. The piece they wrote about Trump's chances was written AFTER the election.

I do agree that they did give Trump a greater chance than most polling sites.
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
20885 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:34 pm to
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Same website that projected Hillary to win.

I don’t believe in polls, percentages or algorithms on basketball games




Interesting question...if Hillary and Trump were to play 1 on 1 in basketball, what would the point spread be?
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15680 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:59 pm to
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Did they? Also, this happened very early on, so 538’s polling sample surely included this.

Did they? What, like 200 accounts? That’s what turned the rust belt!!

Did they??? That sounds pretty serious. I can’t wait to see the charges this lengthy Mueller investigation turns up!


Yes they did all of those things. You asked specifically what the Russian intelligence agencies did and I listed three things.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15811 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:07 pm to
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1. They hacked the email of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton and the DNC server


Thank you Russia for exposing the Clinton Dnc criminals.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:10 pm to
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Did they??? That sounds pretty serious. I can’t wait to see the charges this lengthy Mueller investigation turns up!


You do realize 5 wealthy Americans have already been indicted for this all of which worked with Trump's campaign. Of those 5, 4 of them pled guilty and are now cooperating. This is in the United States...when was the last time a guilty rich man pled guilty. Answer: wealthy people don't plead guilty unless they have no other option in this country.

As for 538...I'd have to look it up but every state they missed on save one was within the margin of error in their polling. I believe that was Michigan. They got the overall numbers right concerning population vote. They just missed the old white dude democrat frustration vote.

It is obvious Russia interfered in the election. It is obvious Trump's campaign worked with them. It isn't known if Trump knew.

As of today we don't know if Trump's campaign worked with Russia cause they are idiots and didn't realize they were committing an act of treason or they did it because they are traitors.

Based on what we know despite Russian interference the balance of the election was decided by old white male democrats in the rust belt...a place there is no evidence Russia targeted (except Ohio). So it is unlikely it affected the outcome, but it still doesn't excuse treason.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 1:13 pm
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