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re: Final Southeastern Conference re-alignment (A true "Southeastern" conference)
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:32 pm to EKG
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:32 pm to EKG
Both expansions the SEC wanted Texas over aggy
100 schools want into the SEC...doesn't mean we want them.
Even this last time there were talks between ESPN/SEC and Texas.
That is what created the Longhorn Network.
100 schools want into the SEC...doesn't mean we want them.
Even this last time there were talks between ESPN/SEC and Texas.
That is what created the Longhorn Network.
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:34 pm to A LeBlanc
Where did I say otherwise?
And why the downvote?
I don’t get you.
Relax.
The horns never wanted any part of the SEC.
It is what it is.
It wasn’t an either/or deal.
And why the downvote?
I don’t get you.
Relax.
The horns never wanted any part of the SEC.
It is what it is.
It wasn’t an either/or deal.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:39 pm to EKG
Don't be so sensitive
Think downvotes as something you strive for.
Think downvotes as something you strive for.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:45 pm to A LeBlanc
That’s the second time you’ve tossed out the “sensitive” characterization in your last several posts.
I heard ya the first time.
And for the record, I’m not the one blanket downvoting posts that blow my skirt up.
You swoop in like a burnt orange knight every single time a thread mentions A&M and/or UTex.
There’s a story there.
I heard ya the first time.
And for the record, I’m not the one blanket downvoting posts that blow my skirt up.
You swoop in like a burnt orange knight every single time a thread mentions A&M and/or UTex.
There’s a story there.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:53 pm to MSHawg1
quote:
East -
Alabama (Changed Divisions)
Auburn (Changed Divisions)
Florida
Georgia
North Carolina (Added)
South Carolina
Tennessee
Virginia (Added)
Roy Williams rates this 5 stars
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:54 pm to A LeBlanc
quote:
Both expansions the SEC wanted Texas over aggy
Not true, they wanted either/or. State legislature cockblocked it the first time around because they were afraid it would cause the Southwest Conference to fall.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:59 pm to MSHawg1
West:
Alabama
Arkansas
LSU
Missouri
Miss. State
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
East:
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
This would make the most sense Geographically. It would never happen though because Alabama would have to choose between Auburn and Tennessee if they did perm opponents.
I would do away with them myself though.
West Schedule:
1. Power 5 OOC
2. In State OOC
3. West
4. East
5. East
6. West
7. Out of State OOC
8. West
BYE
9. West
10.East
11.West
12.West
East Schedule could be the same just make it match the west matchups.
Alabama
Arkansas
LSU
Missouri
Miss. State
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
East:
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
This would make the most sense Geographically. It would never happen though because Alabama would have to choose between Auburn and Tennessee if they did perm opponents.
I would do away with them myself though.
West Schedule:
1. Power 5 OOC
2. In State OOC
3. West
4. East
5. East
6. West
7. Out of State OOC
8. West
BYE
9. West
10.East
11.West
12.West
East Schedule could be the same just make it match the west matchups.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:11 pm to A LeBlanc
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R Gerald Turner who was named head of SEC expansion was named to that position because he was a Texas graduate
What do Arkansas and aggy fans know about the SEC in 1988.
It blows my mind.
Nothing personal but the conference wanted Texas before either of you.
Didn't work out.
Whose idea was it to add Texas? My understanding is that Broyles was the first to pitch the idea, so it would only make sense for the SEC to choose a Texas graduate, if Broyles had already sold them on the idea.
The whole idea of conference realignment began when Texas tried to create a superconference in the mid-80's, so much had already happened before the SEC got involved.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:25 pm to MSHawg1
Columbia, Missouri Coordinates: 38°57'5?N 92°19'42?W
Charolettsville , Virgina Coordinates: 38°1'48?N 78°28'44?W
Lexington, Kentucky Coordinates: 38°01'47?N 84°29'41?W
Pretty damn close.
Charolettsville , Virgina Coordinates: 38°1'48?N 78°28'44?W
Lexington, Kentucky Coordinates: 38°01'47?N 84°29'41?W
Pretty damn close.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:32 pm to redeye
It is an Arkansas narrative.
Whose idea?
The SEC.
Adding Texas in the late 1980's could have happen.
Texas' arrogrance was fading.
Texas football was falling apart
The state was in a recession
Everyone knew the SWC was going to fall apart.
It made perfect sense on both parts
Why R Gerald Turner was given the reigns.
Whose idea?
The SEC.
Adding Texas in the late 1980's could have happen.
Texas' arrogrance was fading.
Texas football was falling apart
The state was in a recession
Everyone knew the SWC was going to fall apart.
It made perfect sense on both parts
Why R Gerald Turner was given the reigns.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:44 pm to A LeBlanc
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Adding Texas in the late 1980's could have happen.
Can you provide some context and support here? Are you talking about after Arkansas had already signed on to join? I don't recall the date that happened, but we began SEC play in '91, so it was probably during the late 80's.
quote:
Texas' arrogrance was fading.
This never happened. If anything, Texas arrogance has grown, imo.
quote:
Everyone knew the SWC was going to fall apart.
Yes, because Arkansas left for the SEC. If anyone thought the SWC was falling apart before then, it was because Texas was trying to create a "superconference", which originally included Arkansas and LSU as founding members.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:57 pm to redeye
Arkansas joined the SEC after the Texas Legislature threatened to pull the funding from Texas if it left.
This is not some narrative of Frank Broyles playing golf in Birmingham with his buddies.
These are actual facts.
The SEC names a Texas graduate as head of the search committee
The Texas schools have threats made if they left...
Arkansas joins.
Arkansas joins because of the issues in Texas.
If Arkansas was the original choice none of this other stuff would have happened.
This is the OU and Texas game from 1990... LINK
The announcers pretty much said that Texas was going to the SEC when they were talking about the SEC refs.
At the 2:17 mark
This is not some narrative of Frank Broyles playing golf in Birmingham with his buddies.
These are actual facts.
The SEC names a Texas graduate as head of the search committee
The Texas schools have threats made if they left...
Arkansas joins.
Arkansas joins because of the issues in Texas.
If Arkansas was the original choice none of this other stuff would have happened.
This is the OU and Texas game from 1990... LINK
The announcers pretty much said that Texas was going to the SEC when they were talking about the SEC refs.
At the 2:17 mark
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:12 pm to ARKTraveler
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Broyles and Arkansas were the catalyst for expansion at the time, because the SWC was so corrupt that several programs were either serving probation or had recently. Broyles and the fan base had grown tired, and wanted something else.
What's funny about this is that soon after the pigs joined the SEC, they were put on multi-year probation for football and basketball players taking part in a "generous" jobs program through a booster's trucking company.
You don't need to make stuff up, man. Arkansas left for the same reason aggy did... $$$
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:14 pm to OKTGR580
Now the problems are Ala./Aub. & Miss./MSU in diff. divisions - never will happen in SEC.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:16 pm to Smart Post
The Piggies and Aggy are the same.
Bama could steal their lunch money and their wife at the same time but still complain about Texas.
Seen them get screwed around in the SEC as much as supposedly Texas did.
Bama could steal their lunch money and their wife at the same time but still complain about Texas.
Seen them get screwed around in the SEC as much as supposedly Texas did.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:18 pm to A LeBlanc
quote:
This is the OU and Texas game from 1990... LINK
The announcers pretty much said that Texas was going to the SEC when they were talking about the SEC refs.
At the 2:17 mark
I'm pretty sure that Arkansas was already set to join the SEC by that time. We joined the following year and we knew well before then. If I had to guess, I'd say we knew in '89.
quote:
Arkansas joins.
Arkansas joins because of the issues in Texas.
If Arkansas was the original choice none of this other stuff would have happened.
I don't completely disagree with this. We did join because of issues in Texas and Texas was an original choice, but only because Broyles sold Texas to the SEC, along with Arkansas. If not for Texas, then I don't know if the SEC would have wanted Arkansas, but we weren't exactly minced meat back then, either.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:23 pm to Sooner1984
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but culturally speaking, I bet a feller could roam around OK and KY and find as many "southern" people in OK as KY.
You must not be familiar with the Kentucky Derby, Kentucky bourbon and Kentucky bluegrass music. Those 3 things alone contributed more to southern culture than Oklahoma ever has. I’m from Oklahoma. It’s more western/cowboy than southern. Oklahoma has more in common with Colorado and Wyoming than it does with Georgia and Tennessee.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:24 pm to redeye
quote:
only because Broyles sold Texas to the SEC, along with Arkansas
Careful, now, the aggy and poor piggy children on here have been brainwashed to believe TEXAS chased off Arkansas from the Southwest Conference (and that the Longhorns "destroyed" the conference, even though Arkansas started the dominos falling).
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:25 pm to Smart Post
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What's funny about this is that soon after the pigs joined the SEC, they were put on multi-year probation for football and basketball players taking part in a "generous" jobs program through a booster's trucking company.
That was almost 10 years later and it was small time compared to violations other SEC teams have received. I believe the basketball violations were something different and the NCAA spent years investigating without ever finding any evidence of whatever they were investigating.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:27 pm to MSHawg1
Is this technically a response thread?
My first :-)
My first :-)
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