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re: Final Southeastern Conference re-alignment (A true "Southeastern" conference)

Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by Tigerfan0318
Missouri
Member since Oct 2018
1693 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Missouri - dropped


Dude...you really got to get past this. As long as we bring the TV markets of St. Louis and Kansas City...we ain't going any where.

Posted by A LeBlanc
St. Landry Parish
Member since Apr 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:35 pm to
When the SEC picked who the head the committee it was the Ole Miss chancellor who was also a Texas graduate.
You cannot deny that fact. The rest of the stuff is revisionist history.

The guy had one job to do and all the i's were dotted and t's crossed but it didn't happen.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Big 10 bound for us and this would be sweet.


Screw you. We ain't goin' anywhere.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:11 pm to
You want us to leave, but that's not happening.

You take oU, you'll have to take their little bro Okie Lite. Their State Legislature will insist. Fact. Package deal only.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7254 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:41 pm to
Tn. & Vandy won't be split into different divisions.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8586 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:53 pm to
I have a feeling teams cant just be dropped, if it were that easy Arkansas would have been gone decades ago
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

When the SEC picked who the head the committee it was the Ole Miss chancellor who was also a Texas graduate.
You cannot deny that fact. The rest of the stuff is revisionist history.

The guy had one job to do and all the i's were dotted and t's crossed but it didn't happen.


Here's an article worth noting:

1992 Expansion

quote:

For its part, the SEC wasn’t going to sit idly on the sidelines. On May 31, 1990, the SEC presidents voted to authorize expansion, identifying six schools as potential members: Texas, Texas A&M, Florida State, Miami, South Carolina and Arkansas. Ole Miss President Gerald Turner headed the conference’s expansion committee. He told the Washington Post that the CFA’s inevitable decline meant the SEC would negotiate its own television contracts in the future and that the “first step in that direction is minimizing the force of competing conferences in our geographic area.” In other words, the SEC wanted to keep the Atlantic Coast Conference and a potential Big East football conference out of the State of Florida.

But SEC Commissioner Roy Kramer also wanted to go on the offensive. Keith Dunnavant noted, “The SEC’s area of dominant influence fell short of the footprint desired by many consumer-oriented companies,” which Kramer sought as sponsors. To make the “footprint” more sponsor-friendly, Kramer wanted to move into South Carolina, Arkansas and especially Texas. By targeting Texas, Texas A&M and Arkansas, Kramer had effectively declared war on the Southwest Conference, where all three schools were members. It was one thing to recruit independent schools; the SEC was contemplating an unprecedented raid on a fellow conference.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30851 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:04 pm to
So the two best teams are in the SEC East every year?

Yeesh.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:04 pm to
More from that article:

quote:

The magic 12th school would not come from the State of Texas. Although Texas and Texas A&M were on the SEC’s original expansion wish list, politics made either a non-starter. With Arkansas’ likely departure, the SWC would collapse without its two biggest Texas schools. That was unpalatable to Texas legislators — many of whom were alumni of the other five SWC members — and Texas and A&M were publicly threatened with retaliation if they left. Eventually, the SWC did dissolve, with most of the Texas schools merging with the Big Eight into the Big 12.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:06 pm to
Change UT for A&M and I’ll buy. We got the ackward little gay brother from that State.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9441 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

Missouri - dropped


We'll make a deal: if Arky can beat us in football, we will leave the conference.
Posted by MSHawg1
Bad-assistan
Member since Jun 2018
5046 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Change UT for A&M and I’ll buy. We got the ackward little gay brother from that State.

you could talk me into this.
quote:

West - 

Arkansas 
LSU 
Kentucky (Changed Divisions) 
Mississippi State 
Ole Miss 
Oklahoma (Added) 
Texas (exchanged for A&M)
Vanderbilt (Changed Divisions) 


East - 

Alabama (Changed Divisions) 
Auburn (Changed Divisions) 
Florida 
Georgia 
North Carolina (Added) 
South Carolina 
Tennessee 
Virginia (Added) 

This would be really fun to watch
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted by jumpstart
Member since Jun 2018
919 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

I think adding Oklahoma and Clemson would give us the most bang for our buck.
You missed the whole point of realignment. You add teams to add viewers. clemsux would not add any and Oklahoma is not a big draw that we don't already have. UNC would add the Charlotte and Raleigh markets and Virginia would add the Washington/Virginia market. The name of the "money game" is viewership !
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:45 pm to
SEC North: Mizzou, Arkansas, Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee Alabama, Ole Miss

SEC South: LSU, A&M, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, State and South Carolina.

North/south geographical divisions makes more sense than east/west logistically. Just don’t don’t see the title “north” flying for the folks in the SEC.
Posted by Sooner1984
Boone's Farm, Texas
Member since Jan 2017
443 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:02 pm to
Not sure why you SEC guys embrace Kentucky so much. Nothing against KY (and they do have a premier basketball team) - but culturally speaking, I bet a feller could roam around OK and KY and find as many "southern" people in OK as KY.

Hell, half the top of that state is yank. As in Cincinatti yank. Can't believe ya'll take in them spaghetti and chili eatin' folks. lol
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8597 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Your post is completely incorrect. Frank Broyles intiated the contact with Doug Dickey( one of his former assistants) who was at Tennessee at the time. Broyles and Arkansas were the catalyst for expansion at the time, because the SWC was so corrupt that several programs were either serving probation or had recently. Broyles and the fan base had grown tired, and wanted something else.


I think LSU was also a big part of it and I'm almost positive that LSU sponsored us to join the SEC. LSU was also being courted to join the "super conference" imagined by Texas, but instead helped Arkansas join the SEC, after Broyles pitched the idea to the LSU AD. The LSU AD then officially pitched the idea to the SEC and that's what started the work on SEC expansion.
Posted by A LeBlanc
St. Landry Parish
Member since Apr 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:16 pm to
Parts of Kentucky if you ask for Sweet Tea they give you a pack of Splenda
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94849 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

The SEC West is a cakewalk here



Ranked teams off of last year

2. Bama-East

4. OU-West

6. LSU- West

7. UGA-East

7- UF-East

12. UK- West

16. A&M- West


You were saying?
Posted by A LeBlanc
St. Landry Parish
Member since Apr 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:22 pm to
R Gerald Turner who was named head of SEC expansion was named to that position because he was a Texas graduate
What do Arkansas and aggy fans know about the SEC in 1988.
It blows my mind.

Nothing personal but the conference wanted Texas before either of you.
Didn't work out.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 4:23 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:27 pm to
An interesting article from 1992 as well.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
We always wanted to head east.

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