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Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:34 pm to MSHawg1
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:34 pm to MSHawg1
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Missouri - dropped
Dude...you really got to get past this. As long as we bring the TV markets of St. Louis and Kansas City...we ain't going any where.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:35 pm to ARKTraveler
When the SEC picked who the head the committee it was the Ole Miss chancellor who was also a Texas graduate.
You cannot deny that fact. The rest of the stuff is revisionist history.
The guy had one job to do and all the i's were dotted and t's crossed but it didn't happen.
You cannot deny that fact. The rest of the stuff is revisionist history.
The guy had one job to do and all the i's were dotted and t's crossed but it didn't happen.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:09 pm to Mizzou4ever
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Big 10 bound for us and this would be sweet.
Screw you. We ain't goin' anywhere.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:11 pm to MSHawg1
You want us to leave, but that's not happening.
You take oU, you'll have to take their little bro Okie Lite. Their State Legislature will insist. Fact. Package deal only.
You take oU, you'll have to take their little bro Okie Lite. Their State Legislature will insist. Fact. Package deal only.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:41 pm to MSHawg1
Tn. & Vandy won't be split into different divisions.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:53 pm to MSHawg1
I have a feeling teams cant just be dropped, if it were that easy Arkansas would have been gone decades ago
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:02 pm to A LeBlanc
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When the SEC picked who the head the committee it was the Ole Miss chancellor who was also a Texas graduate.
You cannot deny that fact. The rest of the stuff is revisionist history.
The guy had one job to do and all the i's were dotted and t's crossed but it didn't happen.
Here's an article worth noting:
1992 Expansion
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For its part, the SEC wasn’t going to sit idly on the sidelines. On May 31, 1990, the SEC presidents voted to authorize expansion, identifying six schools as potential members: Texas, Texas A&M, Florida State, Miami, South Carolina and Arkansas. Ole Miss President Gerald Turner headed the conference’s expansion committee. He told the Washington Post that the CFA’s inevitable decline meant the SEC would negotiate its own television contracts in the future and that the “first step in that direction is minimizing the force of competing conferences in our geographic area.” In other words, the SEC wanted to keep the Atlantic Coast Conference and a potential Big East football conference out of the State of Florida.
But SEC Commissioner Roy Kramer also wanted to go on the offensive. Keith Dunnavant noted, “The SEC’s area of dominant influence fell short of the footprint desired by many consumer-oriented companies,” which Kramer sought as sponsors. To make the “footprint” more sponsor-friendly, Kramer wanted to move into South Carolina, Arkansas and especially Texas. By targeting Texas, Texas A&M and Arkansas, Kramer had effectively declared war on the Southwest Conference, where all three schools were members. It was one thing to recruit independent schools; the SEC was contemplating an unprecedented raid on a fellow conference.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:04 pm to MSHawg1
So the two best teams are in the SEC East every year?
Yeesh.
Yeesh.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:04 pm to A LeBlanc
More from that article:
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The magic 12th school would not come from the State of Texas. Although Texas and Texas A&M were on the SEC’s original expansion wish list, politics made either a non-starter. With Arkansas’ likely departure, the SWC would collapse without its two biggest Texas schools. That was unpalatable to Texas legislators — many of whom were alumni of the other five SWC members — and Texas and A&M were publicly threatened with retaliation if they left. Eventually, the SWC did dissolve, with most of the Texas schools merging with the Big Eight into the Big 12.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:06 pm to MSHawg1
Change UT for A&M and I’ll buy. We got the ackward little gay brother from that State.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:21 pm to MSHawg1
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Missouri - dropped
We'll make a deal: if Arky can beat us in football, we will leave the conference.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:23 pm to r2d2
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Change UT for A&M and I’ll buy. We got the ackward little gay brother from that State.
you could talk me into this.
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West -
Arkansas
LSU
Kentucky (Changed Divisions)
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Oklahoma (Added)
Texas (exchanged for A&M)
Vanderbilt (Changed Divisions)
East -
Alabama (Changed Divisions)
Auburn (Changed Divisions)
Florida
Georgia
North Carolina (Added)
South Carolina
Tennessee
Virginia (Added)
This would be really fun to watch
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:35 pm to BHMKyle
quote:You missed the whole point of realignment. You add teams to add viewers. clemsux would not add any and Oklahoma is not a big draw that we don't already have. UNC would add the Charlotte and Raleigh markets and Virginia would add the Washington/Virginia market. The name of the "money game" is viewership !
I think adding Oklahoma and Clemson would give us the most bang for our buck.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:45 pm to MSHawg1
SEC North: Mizzou, Arkansas, Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee Alabama, Ole Miss
SEC South: LSU, A&M, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, State and South Carolina.
North/south geographical divisions makes more sense than east/west logistically. Just don’t don’t see the title “north” flying for the folks in the SEC.
SEC South: LSU, A&M, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, State and South Carolina.
North/south geographical divisions makes more sense than east/west logistically. Just don’t don’t see the title “north” flying for the folks in the SEC.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:02 pm to OKTGR580
Not sure why you SEC guys embrace Kentucky so much. Nothing against KY (and they do have a premier basketball team) - but culturally speaking, I bet a feller could roam around OK and KY and find as many "southern" people in OK as KY.
Hell, half the top of that state is yank. As in Cincinatti yank. Can't believe ya'll take in them spaghetti and chili eatin' folks. lol
Hell, half the top of that state is yank. As in Cincinatti yank. Can't believe ya'll take in them spaghetti and chili eatin' folks. lol
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:14 pm to ARKTraveler
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Your post is completely incorrect. Frank Broyles intiated the contact with Doug Dickey( one of his former assistants) who was at Tennessee at the time. Broyles and Arkansas were the catalyst for expansion at the time, because the SWC was so corrupt that several programs were either serving probation or had recently. Broyles and the fan base had grown tired, and wanted something else.
I think LSU was also a big part of it and I'm almost positive that LSU sponsored us to join the SEC. LSU was also being courted to join the "super conference" imagined by Texas, but instead helped Arkansas join the SEC, after Broyles pitched the idea to the LSU AD. The LSU AD then officially pitched the idea to the SEC and that's what started the work on SEC expansion.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:16 pm to Sooner1984
Parts of Kentucky if you ask for Sweet Tea they give you a pack of Splenda
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:19 pm to athenslife101
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The SEC West is a cakewalk here
Ranked teams off of last year
2. Bama-East
4. OU-West
6. LSU- West
7. UGA-East
7- UF-East
12. UK- West
16. A&M- West
You were saying?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:22 pm to KaiserSoze99
R Gerald Turner who was named head of SEC expansion was named to that position because he was a Texas graduate
What do Arkansas and aggy fans know about the SEC in 1988.
It blows my mind.
Nothing personal but the conference wanted Texas before either of you.
Didn't work out.
What do Arkansas and aggy fans know about the SEC in 1988.
It blows my mind.
Nothing personal but the conference wanted Texas before either of you.
Didn't work out.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 4:27 pm to KaiserSoze99
An interesting article from 1992 as well.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
We always wanted to head east.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
We always wanted to head east.
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