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re: Family of Jamea Harris can’t avoid Alabama basketball

Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by AUDevil
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:43 pm to
The Auburn Family stands with the Jamea Harris family. We’re here for you!
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:43 pm to
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The law you cite requires intent.



Like intentionally bringing a gun to the scene after being texted to do so by his friend? Did Miller think his buddies were going to the gun range at that hour?
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 5:50 pm
Posted by bigDgator
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:44 pm to
So the lady gets hit with a stray bullet while her boyfriend is exchanging gunfire with a guy who is hanging out with Alabama basketball players. There is lots of stupid to go around here and while Alabama should get some of it, she does not appear to have made smart decisions either.

This guy can also go frick himself if he thinks he can blame it on gun culture, which is not even a thing. This is what gun culture is to me.


Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:50 pm to
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So bringing a gun to the scene after being texted to do so isn't intent?
Bringing a car with a teammates belongings to pick up said teammate, after which point the teammate grabs his weapon and hands it to another party who then uses it commits murder, does not in fact constitute intent to commit the offense of murder.
Posted by TideCPA
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:57 pm to
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So the lady gets hit with a stray bullet while her boyfriend is exchanging gunfire with a guy who is hanging out with Alabama basketball players. There is lots of stupid to go around here and while Alabama should get some of it, she does not appear to have made smart decisions either.
No, you’ve got your facts incorrect. Brandon Miller waited to pick up Miles so the argument had time to fester, then loaded his gun, tailed the victim’s Jeep (which had pulled into the alley with lights off to attend a Bible study), blocked the Jeep from leaving cartel-style, and then handed the gun to the shooter while screaming LIGHT EM UP.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:02 pm to
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Bringing a car with a teammates belongings to pick up said teammate, after which point the teammate grabs his weapon and hands it to another party who then uses it commits murder, does not in fact constitute intent to commit the offense of murder.



You intentionally use the words "belongings" to sanitize Miller's actions. His friend told Miller to bring a firearm to the scene (He explicitly said "I need my Joint". Miller complied. By those terms and strict reading, he violated 13A-2-23. There is no way around it.

Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:13 pm to
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You intentionally use the words "belongings" to sanitize Miller's actions. His friend told Miller to bring a firearm to the scene (He explicitly said "I need my Joint". Miller complied. By those terms and strict reading, he violated 13A-2-23. There is no way around it.
He asked Miller to bring the weapon (whether he even read that text is anyone’s guess) presumably for protection (because someone was “fakin”, or threatening him). There’s no way any reasonable person would believe that Miller intended for Miles and his friend to use the weapon to murder someone who he didn’t even know existed. That element of intent to commit the offense or aid in its commission is absolutely necessary under this statute.

Miles knew exactly what his friend was going to do with the weapon. That’s why he was charged with murder. You’re trying to extend Miles’ involvement to Miller because he’s good at basketball.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 6:16 pm
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:23 pm to
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Like intentionally bringing a gun to the scene after being texted to do so by his friend? Did Miller think his buddies were going to the gun range at that hour?


What if the "scene" arrived after Brandon Miller arrived. Is he still bringing it to a scene?

Also, how does he have intent when he doesn't know the context and THEN the gun owner gave his gun to someone else and then the murder took place.
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:25 pm to
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His friend told Miller to bring a firearm to the scene (He explicitly said "I need my Joint". Miller complied. By those terms and strict reading, he violated 13A-2-23. There is no way around it.


He was also already on the way to pick Miles up before he received the text.

That's easy to prove considering Brandon provided the police with Dashcam footage AND his phone.

There is still a lot to be deciphered in Court. Any rational person would know that.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:33 pm to
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Miles knew exactly what his friend was going to do with the weapon. That’s why he was charged with murder. You’re trying to extend Miles’ involvement to Miller because he’s good at basketball.


No, thats the Alabama fan in you talking. Personally, I could not care less about the basketball part. It's about responsibility. All parties here are innocent until proven guilty. However I also think Miller's hand are on enough facets of the incident that he bears so fault, even if it's small. If he's truly innocent like ever Bama fan is saying it will bare itself out in a court of law in front of a jury of his peers....
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:41 pm to
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All parties here are innocent until proven guilty.


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If he's truly innocent like ever Bama fan is saying it will bare itself out in a court of law in front of a jury of his peers....



But until then you'll call him a "killer". Makes sense.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13264 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:41 pm to
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If he's truly innocent like ever Bama fan is saying it will bare itself out in a court of law in front of a jury of his peers....
Miller isn’t going on trial, chief. The people who actually have all the evidence the public is not privy to (police and prosecutors) have determined nothing Miller did constitutes a crime, so there’s no “jury of his peers” to consider.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:44 pm to
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trauma caused by the men’s basketball team representing the University of Alabama.


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controversial Alabama basketball team


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image of the university continued to lose respectability


pure nonsense

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62375 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:46 pm to
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Those things aren’t mutually exclusive.

John Talty decided to write a whole arse news article about it. For what purpose? Who benefits from that? John Talty. That’s it.

Joe Goodman decided to fricking call this grieving father and ask him how he felt about those shirts. Again, for what purpose? Who benefits from that? Certainly not the grieving father.

frick you. And frick those two vile, evil media members.


Nailed it. Anyone amplifying these media whores couldn't care less about Jamea Harris or her family.
Posted by PBD4BAMA
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
6295 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:50 pm to
If Miller didn’t play basketball for Alabama, 95% of y’all wouldn’t give 2 Shitz about what happened!!
You think the popo turned the other cheek if he was involved in the murder just so he can play basketball for Alabama? Y’all some kind of special stupid!
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62375 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:51 pm to
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If Miller didn’t play basketball for Alabama, 95% of y’all wouldn’t give 2 Shitz about what happened!!


They still don't. They only care as a method to bring down Bama.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:17 pm to
Except that’s not the story
Posted by ceretonia
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
754 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:36 pm to
He would be pressed to resign or be fired, yes.

quote:

by BrerTiger

You think the president of the University of Alabama would get fired if he were to simply call or visit the family and offer condolences for the loss of their loved one?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62375 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:40 pm to
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I've been pretty understanding of Bama's position but it is fairly galling that the family says that no one from the university has reached out to them. How is that still true? You'd think they would at least refute that. If they have, I missed it.


The University was not involved in this and should not be admitting any culpability by reaching out to the family.
Posted by ceretonia
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
754 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:51 pm to


And



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No, thats the Alabama fan in you talking. Personally, I could not care less about the basketball part. It's about responsibility. All parties here are innocent until proven guilty. However I also think Miller's hand are on enough facets of the incident that he bears so fault, even if it's small. If he's truly innocent like ever Bama fan is saying it will bare itself out in a court of law in front of a jury of his peers....
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 8:52 pm
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