re: Exploring Dan Mullen's MSU Resume

I think the thing about Mullen that Florida finds so attractive is that he simply helped MSU reach their potential. I don't think there is a single metric, much less multiple ones, that would indicate that Mississippi State should compete in the SEC West, let alone the SEC. But Mullen had MSU beating the opponents they should have beaten and were a consistent threat to beat teams and programs that had much more resources than he had.

I think Florida fans simply feel that if he is able to do the same in Gainesville, to get UF to reach their potential while having little or no drama, then he's worth the hire.

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don't think there is a single metric, much less multiple ones, that would indicate that Mississippi State should compete in the SEC West, let alone the SEC. But Mullen had MSU beating the opponents they should have beaten and were a consistent threat to beat teams and programs that had much more resources than he had.

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Right, the dude had Miss. St as the number one team in the country for 4 weeks and going into week 10. You can defiantly point to a weak schedule to that point but they lost by 5 at Bama. Not trying to argue for him being top 3 in the league but I think he is a very good coach.

I'll leave this here. I posted it in another thread and dumb frick like you probably needs to read it.

Dan Mullen won 69 games in 9 years at MSU. That's 7-8 games every year. AT frickING MSU in the SEC West, which from about 2009 (when he started) until now has been the toughest goddamn division in CFB during one of the greatest dynasties in the modern era (Alabama). The SEC West (mostly Alabama, but Auburn too) won 6 national titles and lost 4 other title/playoff (Alabama x2, AUburn, LSU) games in that span. In other words, Dan Mullen was coaching at the historically worst school in the SEC west during a time in which the division had 9 straight years of legit national title contenders and 6 winners.

They had won 7 bowl games in their history before he got there. He won 6 in 9 years. They had been to 13 bowl games IN THEIR HISTORY when he arrived. He took them to 8 straight.

Is Dan Mullen going to do well at Florida?

frick, I don't know. But he did good work at the worst school in the SEC west.

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quote: And let's also note that the SEC as a conference is much stronger nowadays.

quote: Quite frankly it’s much easier to win at places like Kentucky, and Mississippi State than it was 20 years ago

Do you see why I’m confused?

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Wasn't my statement to defend, but an argument could be made that the gap between elite and average in the conference has widened, while the gap between bottom and average has shrunk.

This would net both a stronger overall conference and still an 'easier' path to victory at traditionally 'lesser' programs.

Not saying I buy it completely, but it's a plausible stance that would explain the perceived conflict.

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Your argument is that could happen to anyone, so we should ignore it?

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My point is that a coach did build MSU up not too long ago. He had a better 4 year run from 97-00 than Mullen ever had at MSU.

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My point is that a coach did build MSU up not too long ago. He had a better 4 year run from 97-00 than Mullen ever had at MSU.

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I thought you weren’t a fan of arbitrary lengths of time, kinda like UF vs UGA’s record since 1990. Seems like you’re just like every other fan you use the ammo you need to fit your narrative. Just thought I’d point that out since you were so condescending about it when I used a time frame you didn’t like. Have a good one.

Mullen is Mac without a neck. He'll beat the crappy teams(most of the time) and shite the bed against anyone with a pulse. There is no excuse for our recruiting to suck this bad. None.

He didn't, not make it... Simply made two statements. You thought they were at odds, and accurate or not, I pointed out how someone could believe both statements to be true.

With that said, do you disagree that the gap between the average and bottom tier SEC teams has narrowed?

Kentucky, Vandy, and Miss St are much better programs in 2018 than they were 15-20 years ago. Tennessee, and to a lesser degree Florida, are clearly down a peg from that time period. LSUs struggles under Miles at the end and O have been well chronicled here.

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***Zero were against teams with 10 wins or more on the year.

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Say what?! Havre fun FL

Y’all don’t like tj because most of y’all are incredibly thin skinned and can’t handle legit criticism.