re: Exploring Dan Mullen's MSU Resume

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Certainly he will have a ton more talent at UF (eventually) than he's ever had at MSU

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The jury is actually still out.

I know its early, but I find the current 247Sports recruiting rankings very telling:

Rank... Team... Avg. (Quality)

1. Alabama (93.14)
2. Texas A&M (90.27)
4. LSU (89.63)
8. Georgia (94.1)
12. Mississippi St. (89.15)
13. Auburn (91.44)
15. Ole Miss (87.11)
16. S. Carolina (89.20)
18. Tennessee (89.67)
33. Florida (88.32)

He's currently got the 10th best class in the SEC.... right where he was when he was at MSU... and the thing is, it's not because of a lack of commitments. If you look at the average ranking of the commitments he has, Florida's class is still 9th. Mississippi State's class (now that Mullen is gone) actually has a higher quality ranking based on the current commitments.

To be fair that same play calling won him 2 ships at UF late in games and to pull away in games. Tebow up the middle or Tebow right/left worked a lot.
Yes I understand that the other QBs are not Tebow, but if you’re going to tear apart his play calling in one way you have to give credit where it is due the same way.

The season can not get here soon enough. It will prove something to someone somehow.

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I’m not bitter about what he’s done for the program. He’s an excellent talent developer that has gotten our program as competitive as it has been. I’m just stating that your assertion of his in-game coaching is incorrect.

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Compared to what/who?

Malzahn has plenty of in-game frick ups. Saban has a couple too. I don't think anyone is convinced that Kirby is a masterful in-game coach yet. Orgeron? It's not a question of whether Mullen is or isn't a superior in game coach. It's a question of whether that is really going to represent a deficiency when he's at a better program.

You're bitching because a Mississippi State team couldn't finish against a top 5 Alabama team? Give me a break.

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ouché. I’m just saying to expect the play calling, especially late in important games, to be questionable decisions quite a bit.

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After Nussmeier running to the short side of the field 20 times a game and running play action on 3rd and 12 every time he gets the opportunity there is nowhere to go but up.

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He went 69-46 at MSU.

The last coach to have a winning tenure at MSU?

Darrell Royal in 1954-55. Went 12-8.

That tells you a lot.

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It tells me he also had the luxury of playing a 4th OOC game (against a cupcake of course) that previous coaches would have loved to have had.

Previous coaches also didn't have the windfall of cash coming in from the SEC office like all SEC programs have had during the last decade either.

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He's currently got the 10th best class in the SEC.... right where he was when he was at MSU... and the thing is, it's not because of a lack of commitments. If you look at the average ranking of the commitments he has, Florida's class is still 9th. Mississippi State's class (now that Mullen is gone) actually has a higher quality ranking based on the current commitments

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Im not happy with recruiting like at all, but if you are going to be fair you should add in the transition class that he just landed in 2018 that was higher ranked than any class he ever had at MSU. Seem fair?

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He's also probably the best QB developer in the nation. Its kind of an important position.

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We very much need this to be true and not a fluke. Nobody outside of maybe Baton Rouge needs the QB room fixed more.

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if you are going to be fair you should add in the transition class that he just landed in 2018 that was higher ranked than any class he ever had at MSU. Seem fair?

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Sure. I wasn't going to hold that one against him since he didn't have much time to put his class together.

But last year, Florida finished 14th in the recruiting rankings. How does that compare to other Florida classes in the Post-Meyer Era:

2011: #11
2012: #3
2013: #3
2014: #9
2015: #21
2016: #12
2017: #11
2018: #14

So it was the 2nd worst class for Florida probably dating back to Spurrier's hire. No one is going to hold it against him because he didn't have long, but still, if we are comparing it to other Florida classes, it was still very disappointing.

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it was the 2nd worst class for Florida probably dating back to Spurrier's hire. No one is going to hold it against him because he didn't have long, but still, if we are comparing it to other Florida classes, it was still very disappointing.

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My apologies I thought we were comparing it to other MSU classes, since you said he was being out recruited by MSU now. I was just asking when MSU finished 14th? I wasn’t aware the goal post had moved.