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re: Executive Producer of HBO's Real Sports is a bammer

Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:10 am to
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:10 am to
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think the issue here is that even if they had gotten the obligatory "not paid" interviews, it still doesn't counter the people who were paid. It doesn't work like that.


Put one bullet in a Colt 45 revolver and pull the trigger 6 times while aimed at the head of your neighbor. Does the wife of your neighbor call the police to complain about the 5 times nothing happened but a click?
Posted by tkane311
Mo-billionaire
Member since Oct 2009
2336 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:11 am to
The way the 4 were describing it, it was commonplace and everyone knew it. If they described the payments as being really covert, than others' claims that it was all BS doesn't carry much wieght...they wouldn't have known. According to the 4, the other players SHOULD have known. So either the 4 scorned former Auburn players are lying, or the other players are. We have the luxury of deciding for ourselves. The average viewer saw only those making claims that they were paid, hearing nothing of the others disputing it, and also heard nothing of what the 4 players might have been motivated by.
Posted by tkane311
Mo-billionaire
Member since Oct 2009
2336 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:16 am to
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What I thought...I mean I had 32 and 34 on Math and Science respectively but mid to upper 20s for English and Reading. Still came out with a 29, but hence the reason for majoring in engineering

Still a nice score though


Left brainer...oh, no. You and I couldn't even carry on a conversation. Your world is far too symmetrical for me.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:17 am to
Dude,


You realize you're arguing with people that aren't gonna change their opinions regardless as to the validity and rationality of your claims right? Any rational person realizes that the HBO piece was anything but journalism. However, this is the SEC Rant. Reason disappears when you click on this forum's url.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37696 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:19 am to
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the fact that the guy in charge is a Bama guy IS noteworthy


Why would a bama homer leave Tuscaloosa to go to school in Missouri?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36843 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:23 am to
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Executive Producer of HBO's Real Sports is a bammer


That doesn't mean that Auburn hasn't stepped in it, though.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:27 am to
I'll ask you a question I posed the other day. Most agree, yourself included, earlier in the thread.. that players are paid at every level and most likely at all schools. If that's the case, why so defensive when some of those players come forward and why "must" they be lying when other players come out against them? For the blanket statements other players make about "nobody" got paid, it'd be more likely they are lying.
Posted by TiggerWoods
Auburn
Member since Nov 2010
4242 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:29 am to
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Why would a bama homer leave Tuscaloosa to go to school in Missouri?




Couldn't get in

Well I would hope with his job now that he made atleast a 19 on his ACT.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37696 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:33 am to
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Couldn't get in


I heard he likes paying out of state tuition.
Posted by tkane311
Mo-billionaire
Member since Oct 2009
2336 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:34 am to
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I'll ask you a question I posed the other day. Most agree, yourself included, earlier in the thread.. that players are paid at every level and most likely at all schools. If that's the case, why so defensive when some of those players come forward and why "must" they be lying when other players come out against them? For the blanket statements other players make about "nobody" got paid, it'd be more likely they are lying
I think 2 of the players are full of shite, one might be and I think the other is probably telling the truth. I never said all programs paid players. My gripe is that while those 4 would not name anyone of give any specifics (time/place), many players and others named these players in particular and said they were full of shite. True or not...you tell both sides. When you watch a true crime type special, they interview the prosecution and the defense so that you, the viewer, can take it in and decide who you believe. If they only interviewed the prosecution, everyone would appear guilty and vice versa. That's my gripe with the way HBO handled it and even though I honestly doubt that this guy who I guess may or may not be a Bama fan-did this intentionally to harm Auburn, it is an interesting intersection of factors.
Posted by tkane311
Mo-billionaire
Member since Oct 2009
2336 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:36 am to
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You realize you're arguing with people that aren't gonna change their opinions regardless as to the validity and rationality of your claims right?


Dude,
you just summed up 99% of the content of the rant. You are on it too. This is where you say "touche".
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:38 am to
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All delusional au fans realize that the HBO piece was anything but journalism because it was damaging to the family.


FIFY
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37129 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:40 am to
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Why would a bama homer leave Tuscaloosa to go to school in Missouri?




Couldn't get in




he's a journalist

MU and Northwestern are two of the major journalism schools in the country
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37696 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:42 am to
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My gripe is that while those 4 would not name anyone of give any specifics (time/place)


I'm sure they'll go into great detail when discussing the matter with the NCAA.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37129 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:49 am to
btw... any of these guys bammers too?



LINK

Greg IamGreatness Robinson
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Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23149 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:52 am to
quote:

quote:

Why would a bama homer leave Tuscaloosa to go to school in Missouri?




Couldn't get in




he's a journalist

MU and Northwestern are two of the major journalism schools in the country


Where do you guys get this stuff? He spent his childhood/teen years in Birmingham, NOT Tuscaloosa, and his major was business, NOT journalism.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37129 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:55 am to
From the OP:

quote:

It was in Alabama, as a teenager with a love of sports, that Bernstein coincidentally found his way into sports television. As a young boy, Bernstein sold refreshments and souvenirs at Rickwood Field and Legion Field. After befriending an ABC Sports technician, he learned that ABC frequently hired production assistants and runners. In the years that followed, he drove though out the South working college football games, Wide World of Sports, Auto Racing and Golf. By the time Bernstein reached college, he was traveling 35 weekends a year for ABC sports.


Sounds like he really thought he was going to be a sports journalist when he picked his college
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29692 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:58 am to
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Dude,


You realize you're arguing with people that aren't gonna change their opinions regardless as to the validity and rationality of your claims right? Any rational person realizes that the HBO piece was anything but journalism. However, this is the SEC Rant. Reason disappears when you click on this forum's url.


So, the whole reason you come here is to read and share opinions with other people that you believe never have any reason?

Sounds reasonable.
Posted by tkane311
Mo-billionaire
Member since Oct 2009
2336 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 12:00 pm to
A debate is waaaaaay more interesting to me, even if you know you aren't going to sway anyone, than having a conversation with a bunch of people that never disagree with each other.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23149 posts
Posted on 4/4/11 at 12:01 pm to
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molsusports


Also from the OP, when he decided a few posts later to repost the article and NOT omit the part where Bernstein didn't go to UA at all. (would have invalidated his entire premise)

quote:

Bernstein holds a BS/BA degree in Business from the University of Missouri and lives in Larchmont, New York with his wife Jane and his three children.
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