re: Example of disciplinary action of student athlete for a far lesser offense than Miller

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On what planet is delivering a gun to a drunk friend on the strip at 2am a good decision?

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The 3rd rock from the sun. Just ask the Tuscaloosa police.

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How about this: did he make a good decision or a poor decision?


What was his poor decision?

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why can nobody answer this question. Everybody saying Miller should have been suspended, not because he committed a crime, both police and da say he didn't, but because he showed bad judgement somehow. So let's walk through his night and see where this egregious error happened that should wreck his life and career

Didn't go into the bar to drink, dropped his friends off and went to a restaurant. One of his friends left his legal firearm in the car because he couldn't take it into the club. So is the error that should get him suspended here? Let his friend leave the gun in the car? Dont know if I would let someone leave their gun in my car, but who knows I might have at 18

Goes to eat dinner, gets several texts from miles arranging to get picked up from the club. Leaves the restaurant in his car which still contains the gun to go pick up his friends as arranged. Is it at this point he made his grave error? He didn't take the gun out and leave it at the restaurant or like on the sidewalk, or didn't refuse to come back to the club and pick up his friends as was arranged?

He drives all the way back to the club, and according to the timing of the text and the shooting, he gets another text from miles saying, translated from urban, that he wants his gun cause somebody is acting threatening. This text arrives pretty much as he's already arriving at the club. It's not clear if he even saw this text or not before parking. So is it at this point that he makes his error? It's here obligated if he sees that text, which is essentially that his friend feels he's in danger and wants his gun for protection, that he should have peeled out of there leaving his friends to whatever obscure danger they perceived at the time?

Shortly after arriving miles comes and gets the gun out of the car and gives it to Davis, they have a conversation that's caught in the dashcam asking if it's loaded. We don't know if Miller heard this or not, all we have is what came out in court that this exchange happened. So is Miller, assuming he heard the exchange, shows bad judgement by not hopping out and wrestling the gun away from miles and Davis cause he should have known ahead of time that Davis was going to go get into a gunfight?

Shortly thereafter the shooting starts behind him, his car is stuck by bullets and he drives off. It's this his error, should he have stayed there where bullets were flying around?

It seems at this point he doesn't call the police immediately, but from whatever point he comes into contact with the police he is a cooperating witness, let's his phone be dumped etc etc. So is that the error, not staying around or instantly calling the police? I know that I would call the police if my car was shot, but would I if I were an 18 year old black guy? Not sure

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bringing a murder weapon

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It was just a hand gun until the guy not associated with Bama basketball used it. And it still hasn’t been determined by a court of his peers if it was actually self defense or not.

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You know for a fact that's what his intentions were? Or are you just assuming?

He was on his way to pick him up and almost there before the text about the gun was ever sent.

So we know his intentions initially were just to go pick him up as they had planned.

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He had a gun in his car and was driving around with it in his car. He drove that gun to a drunk friend on the strip. It's incredibly irresponsible. I can say with absolute certainty I will never do that. I don't think he intended to deliver a murder weapon but the fact of the matter is he did deliver a murder weapon. You don't have to intend to do something to do it. Note that I'm not saying it was a crime.

If anyone I knew did that, regardless of outcome, I would tell them it's absurdly poor decision and try to talk some sense into them. Driving around with someone else's gun in your back seat at 2am is a poor decision.

For a guy with an NBA future, putting yourself in that situation at all is beyond poor decision making.

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flipping off the police is just expressing free speech

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Didn't sound all that free. Now, if you can go ahead and guarantee absolutely no consequences, I'm in on your free.

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He drove that gun to a drunk friend on the strip. It's incredibly irresponsible

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so the responsible thing is to not be the designated driver and to leave the gun with the guy who is getting drunk? Question, do designated driver usually go pick up drunk people or sober people? We don't even actually know if miles got drunk that night or not, we know Davis was hammered, but it wasn't Davis's gun and Miller want communicating with Davis.

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He drove that gun to a drunk friend on the strip.

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Objection, speculation. No one has said Miles was drunk or even drinking.


Besides, this makes no sense. What if he was drunk and drove him home and the gun was there. Now he is driving a drunk guy to a gun. Is this also incredibly irresponsible?

What if I keep a gun in my glove box or on a gun magnet and go pick up a drunk friend? Is this incredibly irresponsible? Or is it OK for me to assume my friend isn't going to grab it and start shooting people.

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Question, say you had a friend gun for whatever reason. That friend contacts you and says 'get can you bring me my gun, some dude is acting crazy in my building and I don't feel safe, etc etc'. Do you bring it to him? How do you feel if you refuse and he actually needed it, your friend gets killed by some thug and he couldn't defend himself cause you had his gun. Just a hypothetical.

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If I know my friend is drunk downtown at a bar at 2am and seemed agitated no I would not. I would call the police.

If my friend was home in his apartment, yes I would.

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If I know my friend is drunk downtown at a bar at 2am and seemed agitated no I would not.

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Outside of knowing that he was at a bar at 2. There is no report of any of that. There is no report that Miller definitley knew he was drunk or agitated.

Yet again, speculation.

I figured NIL would make the "muh chargers" stuff go away, but I guess stupid people will always be stupid