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re: Even Steele doesn't want to work at LSU
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:34 pm to Jacknola
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:34 pm to Jacknola
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Steele is experienced, knowledgeable, a good recruiter by all accounts, has some maturity, and is intense and driven, perhaps too much. He is a good choice for DC at Auburn.
At the same time LSU may be better without him. He was the whipping boy, odd-man out on the LSU staff, and he was semi-undermined on the defense by subordinate coaches that owed nothing to him.
Watching the secondary mope around and body-language indicate their rejection of his schemes told me the inmates are running the asylum. Someone, team members or coaches, were not on the same page with him at all.
Why he left LSU is easy to guess.
1. No security or tenure at LSU;
2. The prospect of a pretty bad defense in 2016 because of the recruiting and personnel he inherited;
3. Friction within the defense ranks, inability to run his program because of uncertainty with O.
4. A low-ball LSU "counter offer" which did not meet the offer from Auburn. In short, it was insulting.
5. Got tired of the sniping by people who know little about football or defense, especially the vocal insulting rump of fans on Tr.
6. Louisiana "culture" remained foreign to him. Truth, it is foreign.
7. Money goes further in Alabama and his brother is at Auburn. Fans at Auburn are more knowledgeable about football too.
Now the question will be what LSU will do. All assistant coaches are looking over their shoulder. None have a contract beyond next year. The OC doesn't even have a contract for next year. I predict an internal hire, possibly O for DC. It will be interesting to watch.
This made me sad.
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:35 pm to Jacknola
Whole lotta stupid in your post
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:37 pm to FightinTiga
That is a normal Jacknola post.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:41 pm to Jacknola
Interesting. Thanks for your post. LSU right now seems very similar to the end of Tubs era. AU fans tried to take up for him, but DC's leaving for lateral positions should be a huge red flag.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:43 pm to LSU GrandDad
quote:Les isn't too safe. I guess he figures Gus has better chance and Les of keeping his job.
the gus bus is in trouble.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:44 pm to AUCE05
The majority of the fan base wants him gone anyways. Promote CEO
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:46 pm to AUCE05
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but DC's leaving for lateral positions should be a huge red flag.
Doug Mallory "left LSU" for the same position at New Mexico in 2008. Huge red flag right?
Gary Crowton "left LSU" in 2010 for the same job at Maryland in 2010. Huge red flag right?
If it isn't obvious to you that Steele was processed, I'm not sure what to tell you. You'd be laughing at LSU if they matched Auburn's offer because it would have been idiotic to pay Kevin Steele 1.3 million a year
Les has literally never actually fired an assistant coach at LSU. He tells them to find another job instead of making the coach look bad by firing them. The closest thing he's ever done to firing a coach was demoting Brick Haley, who inevitably left
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:46 pm to AUCE05
We got lucky.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:47 pm to AUCE05
Steele was a bad hire for LSU and will cost Gus his job. My only wish is that he would take Jeff Grimes back to AU with him
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:48 pm to lsufball19
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Watching the secondary mope around and body-language indicate their rejection of his schemes told me the inmates are running the asylum. Someone, team members or coaches, were not on the same page with him at all
He has the best collection of secondary talent in the country and he asks them to play soft zone rather than man-to-man.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:53 pm to lsufball19
1. Re: security and tenure.
Three year contract at Auburn vs 1 year remaining at LSU... yes, that is more security in the college coaching ranks.
2. Re: returning personnel and recruiting.
Auburns returning defensive personnel are a lot better and deeper than LSU's and the returning roster does not have as many question marks at LB and DL as LSU. They have recruited well on Defense the last few years, especially compared to LSU.
3. DC "worth" is judged by a scale that most people do not have a clue about. First is recruiting, second is organization, attention to detail and leadership, third is X-Os. Why is it that so many fans know so little about defense? It is hard to judge from the casuals views of television because TV just follows the ball... not the defensive methods.
Yes, apparently Steele WAS worth what he was being paid becaue the market place said he was.
4. The comment about sniping and Tr was tongue in cheek. HOWEVER... LSU fans are notoriously unappreciative. I've heard tell that it played a role in Saban leaving LSU.
I do believe it is best for all parties. Steele will be at a place and in a culture that is much more familiar to him, and LSU can promote Coach O to the delight of his fans. Win-win.
Three year contract at Auburn vs 1 year remaining at LSU... yes, that is more security in the college coaching ranks.
2. Re: returning personnel and recruiting.
Auburns returning defensive personnel are a lot better and deeper than LSU's and the returning roster does not have as many question marks at LB and DL as LSU. They have recruited well on Defense the last few years, especially compared to LSU.
3. DC "worth" is judged by a scale that most people do not have a clue about. First is recruiting, second is organization, attention to detail and leadership, third is X-Os. Why is it that so many fans know so little about defense? It is hard to judge from the casuals views of television because TV just follows the ball... not the defensive methods.
Yes, apparently Steele WAS worth what he was being paid becaue the market place said he was.
4. The comment about sniping and Tr was tongue in cheek. HOWEVER... LSU fans are notoriously unappreciative. I've heard tell that it played a role in Saban leaving LSU.
I do believe it is best for all parties. Steele will be at a place and in a culture that is much more familiar to him, and LSU can promote Coach O to the delight of his fans. Win-win.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:54 pm to Jacknola
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Auburns returning defensive personnel are a lot better and deeper than LSU's and the returning roster does not have as many question marks at LB and DL as LSU. They have recruited well on Defense the last few years, especially compared to LSU.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:56 pm to Jacknola
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Three year contract at Auburn vs 1 year remaining at LSU... yes, that is more security in the college coaching ranks.
not going to matter when Gus gets fired
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Auburns returning defensive personnel are a lot better and deeper than LSU's and the returning roster does not have as many question marks at LB and DL as LSU. They have recruited well on Defense the last few years, especially compared to LSU.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 3:58 pm to AUCE05
At least AU fans can acknowledge what this deal says about the state of their program. LSU fans are dancing around their dumpster fire.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 4:01 pm to JuiceTerry
If we get Bo P. Back we will get back to kicking Bama's arse every year
Posted on 12/30/15 at 4:02 pm to logjamming
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He has the best collection of secondary talent in the country and he asks them to play soft zone rather than man-to-man.
First, no he did NOT have the "best collection of secondary talent in the country." Goddamit my LSU fan friends are clueless about the rest of the teams in the SEC, much less the rest of the country.
This bitching about "zone-coverage" is just one of the clueless talking points probably garnered from some talking-head comment sometime, that dominate the Tr. And it makes my point. The DBs were dogging it because they apparently wanted to showcase their man-skills for the pros, and to heck with the overall defensive scheme.
When your front can't stop any team with a decent OL, you must bring up safeties, disguise support, commit to zone blitzes etc. That means weakening the secondary defense against the pass. In the SEC to go man-man constantly in pass defense, while the other teams knows you are in man coverage, is asking to get your azz beat.
LSU hasn't been able to stop the power game for two years now, and will be suspect next year. It wasn't Steele's fault. It was recruiting and the inability to keep recruits... Valentine for example.
AND... for the laughing hyenas, have any of you looked at the recruiting rosters for Auburn the last few years and seen the level of defensive recruits they have gotten compared to LSU? It is overwhelmingly in Auburn's favor.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 12/30/15 at 4:05 pm to JuiceTerry
Posted on 12/30/15 at 4:14 pm to NFLU
NOLA Alabama fans are a different breed of terrible.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 4:16 pm to Jacknola
It's the holiday season. Why are you so rustled?
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