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re: ESPN Program Prestige Rankings

Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by Rhetoric
Member since Jun 2009
907 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:13 pm to
Vanderbilt is last? That is messed up, IMO.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35462 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:15 pm to
Michigan is overrated as frick. The have 3 national titles since 1936 and have basically specialized over the years in getting their arse kicked in the Rose Bowl. They belong right where they are. No way they are over bama or USC
Posted by bcshog
arkansas
Member since Jul 2009
1579 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:24 pm to
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Michigan is


The winningest college football program of all time. End of story.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35462 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:25 pm to
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The winningest college football program of all time. End of story.



winning games means nothing if you can't win championships and get stomped over and over in the Rose Bowl
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:26 pm to
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Vanderbilt is last? That is messed up, IMO.
Posted by bcshog
arkansas
Member since Jul 2009
1579 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:32 pm to
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winning games means nothing if you can't win championships and get stomped over and over in the Rose Bowl


Yep, what a bunch of losers, only going 8-12 in probably the most prestigious bowl game of all time. THEY SUCK

PS - USC is 0-1 in the Freedom Bowl, talk about suckitude.
Posted by UTVolCountry
Music City
Member since Jun 2008
2478 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:34 pm to
MTSU T-95

Posted by woopiginaustin
Moderator
Member since Jun 2008
8590 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:50 pm to
Lil ol' Arkansas coming in at #19.

CollegeFootballDataWarehouse.com has us around 25th all time.

I believe we fit into the 20-25 slots and by most polls/mathematical calculations that's where end up.
This post was edited on 8/3/09 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Bert Lyons 716
Member since Jan 2006
1528 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:54 pm to
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Second, hmm what happened? Arkansas ranked ahead of Auburn? But weren't we told the other day that Arkansas isn't even a pimple on Auburn's arse

Had you started in SEC,you wouldn't be in top 30. Look at your bowl record.Thank God for the SWC and the private schools. Check your series record against the other schools that suround you.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72298 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 7:01 pm to
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The winningest college football program of all time. End of story.


They might be in danger of losing that title to Texas if Rich Rod doesn't get things headed in the right direction. Of course that might take four or five seasons, unless things really go wrong for UM.

1. Michigan: 872-297-38
2. Texas: 832-320-34
3. Notre Dame: 831-285-42
4. Nebraska: 827-337-41
5. Ohio State: 808-306-53
6. Penn State 801-349-43
7. Alabama: 799-316-43*
8. Oklahoma: 788-300-53
9. Tennessee: 776-327-55
10. USC: 765-303-54

*I'll keep it at 799 until the appeal is finalized one way or the other.


Interesting stat: Since 1936

1. Oklahoma 594-196-22
2. Texas 573-229-15
3. Alabama 571-229-24
4. Tennessee 566-224-28
5. Ohio State 564-189-22
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 9:59 pm to
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1. Oklahoma 594-196-22
2. Texas 573-229-15
3. Alabama 571-229-24
4. Tennessee 566-224-28
5. Ohio State 564-189-22



Did NOT realize that we were the second winningest program in the NCAA of the modern era until this last season. Love the Vols.

Lack of Heisman winners killed Bama and UT in this. They count them in their bogus "formula".

And how the frick is miami and especially FSU ahead of UT/Penn St. FSU has had one good decade ever and they have less than 500 all time wins.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33970 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 10:03 pm to
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They started it with 1936


The first year of the AP poll, which LSU should have won, btw.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33970 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 10:08 pm to
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Can anyone tell me the number of NC's and Heisman's OU has. I'm just really surprised they made it over USC, Notre Dame, and Alabama. They are without a doubt top 5.


OU has seven AP/Coaches NCs, which is tied with Alabama and USC for the second-most to Notre Dame's 8.

OU also owns the longest winning streak in history, which likely will not be broken because parity has increased so much.
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
2058 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 10:10 pm to
Woopiginaustin this is taking a historical composite which the bulk of our success was in the SWC. A couple differences now than in the SWC.

we could recruit a better caliber athlete out of TX b/c we were playing all our road games there and it was convient for parents.

The SWC only won about 35% of the time against the SEC. So that winning percent we had then of 70% of whatever it was will translate to about 40% now over the next 20 years.

Integration of college football.

Arkansas at best is a top 30 or so program.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72298 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 10:11 pm to
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Did NOT realize that we were the second winningest program in the NCAA of the modern era until this last season. Love the Vols.


Are you going by winning percentage since 1936? Otherwise Tennessee is at number four in the modern era, behind Oklahoma, Texas, and Alabama.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 10:13 pm to
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Vanderbilt is last? That is messed up, IMO.


Very, very messed up.
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 10:18 pm to
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Did NOT realize that we were the second winningest program in the NCAA of the modern era until this last season. Love the Vols. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Are you going by winning percentage since 1936? Otherwise Tennessee is at number four in the modern era, behind Oklahoma, Texas, and Alabama.




until this last season(2008)
Posted by BamaJD88
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Jan 2007
718 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 10:23 pm to
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Lack of Heisman winners killed Bama and UT in this. They count them in their bogus "formula".



That actually may not hurt Bama at all. Sometimes highlighting the accomplishments of one player does not help a team reach the highest level. I don't think Alabama would have won as many team championships if it had had Heisman winners.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 10:28 pm to
No one cares what you think, you use the same talking points for every argument and repeat them everytime you get bitch slapped
This post was edited on 8/3/09 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 10:33 pm to
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That actually may not hurt Bama at all. Sometimes highlighting the accomplishments of one player does not help a team reach the highest level. I don't think Alabama would have won as many team championships if it had had Heisman winners.


And you gather that I disagree with this from my post? I said they count them in their "formula". In other words they give teams lots of points for having them. Clearly this hurt UT and Bama in the ranking.
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