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re: ESPN Finds Blueprint for Beating Georgia?

Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Their DL is ok but not a strength


Disagree, our DL is very good. Smith, Mathis and Young have become very good interior run defenders and Turner has evolved into an excellent edge setter the last month.

The interior guys aren't great pass rushers (Mathis is solid), but they are very good in the run game. Solid stonewallers and moreso have very good quickness.

We've played one of the best collection of rush offenses in America and our run numbers are still elite.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:49 pm
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6286 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:51 pm to
They are ranked higher than Clemson. Did you watch them against Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Tennessee, 3 of top 5 offenses in the SEC?

Held #1 SEC offense Ole Miss to less than 300 yards.

Held Mike leach MSU to less than 300 yards

Held Tennessee to 2/13 3rd down conversion and only 10 1st downs all game. Much better defensively vs UT than UGA.


You know UGA has the #3 rush defense in the country, well Alabama is # 4 .

Clemson and UGA are tied with 43 sacks on the year, 4th nationally guess who is # 3 ? Bama that's who. Guess who leads the nation in sacks? Will Anderson.

You should watch more football.


UGA has an elite defense, but not other worldly. Bama is still 2 scores better.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:54 pm to
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Young isn't much of an upgrade over Hooker despite being a better pro prospect. They're actually pretty on par. Check the stats and the QBR ratings. That said, BAMA has more players on offense and more importantly they don't lack depth and they won't have starting playmakers out.


Something like 35% of Hookers throws are at or behind the LOS and 30% of them are fades to the boundary per the last stats I saw.

He's very good at those things, which makes him a great fit for Tennessee's scheme, but Young's plate is much, much fuller in terms of throws he is forced to make and the fact that he is forced to make them in and out of the pocket and against massive amounts of pressure.

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We also had a spotty OL and RB1 out. Too thin. BAMA does not have that issue.


We are down our #1, #2, #3 and #5 running backs, so we're not exactly in a good place there.

And our OL is spotty at the very best.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:56 pm
Posted by TrackDawg
Sugar Hill
Member since Sep 2013
966 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:56 pm to
Similar opponents
UGA gave up 34 points
Bama gave up 107 while playing their starters the entire game.

I don't like transitive but 4 games is telling. Bama is good. The best UGA will see all year but they have a hole. They give up points.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25589 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:03 pm to
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Held Tennessee to 2/13 3rd down conversion and only 10 1st downs all game. Much better defensively vs UT than UGA.


You must have slept through the 2021 season.

Home team matters.
UGA played at tennessee.
Bama got them at home.

Georgia held tennessee to 4.61 yards per play.
Bama at home held tennessee to 6.31 yards per play.

Bama is a solid defense. But to pretend like rankings mean anything is funny (rankings ignore the gaps between teams like ypp and hard stats).
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5751 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:07 pm to
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Combine Ole Miss Offense and Clemson Defense…that might work.


Alabama total offense Rank 7 Scoring offense rank 5
Ole Miss total offense Rank 5 Scoring offense rank 18

Alabama total defense rank 7
Clemson total defense rank 9..against a baby soft ACC schedule
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5751 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:09 pm to
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And we beat everyone by 30+ points. What's your point ?

Going into the 4th qtr with 0 points against Auburn is not an offensive juggernaut.


Yes Dawgs for life it will be severely disappointing if Georgia doesn't win by 4 or 5 TDs.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5751 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:11 pm to
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Not this year’s Bama…awful defense.


totally ignorant comment.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5751 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:12 pm to
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Going into the 4th qtr with 0 points against Auburn is not an offensive juggernaut.


Yes so base the whole season on one game I see? Great logic!
Posted by ugastudent
Member since Mar 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:16 pm to
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Ole Miss total offense Rank 5 Scoring offense rank 18


The Ole Miss that scored 31 against Vanderbilt. Georgia did that in the first quarter.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5751 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:17 pm to
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That’s Bama’s only hope. They get into a grinder with Georgia, they’ll lose by two touchdowns.


A grinder bodes well for Alabama granted the Alabama defense can slow down Georgia's running game and keep the game close. A think if this is the case, Bama will hit some big plays in the passing game which can be the difference.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5751 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:19 pm to
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Wait. You think Alabama's offense is as good as Ole Miss' offense and their defense is as good as Clemson's defense?


Yes they are...on both...BTW, how did Ole Miss do at Auburn..Oh they lost 31-20.

Alabama's offense and defense rank better than Ole Miss and Clemson in total O and Total D.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8997 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:36 pm to
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At it's best, which it's been for 75% of the year, this is our best defense since 2017.

It's also still inconsistent at times against the pass mostly due to busts at Safety, which led to the A&M game and the 2nd half against Arkansas.

It's the best, most dominate run defense we've had in 5-6 years. That's pretty much been consistent all year


I haven't seen anyone do any kind of in depth study on this, but it seems incredibly hard to pair a stout defense like Bama/LSU 2011 and UGA 2021 with a hell on wheels, explosive play after explosive play offense.

McElroy talked about this on his radio show, that you really have to choose what you're gonna center your team around and the other side of the ball is gonna be downgraded. I'm not sure why it's so, as he didn't go into details. But that's certainly what it looks like.

At the beginning of the spring, we thought we were gonna be more like Bama the last three seasons. Explosive offense averaging 500 plus yards per game, 300 plus passing yards per game with JT throwing it around the field. Defense would be among the best, but not generational. By the time Clemson game rolled around, Muschamp had already told Kirby he thought the front could be the best he's ever seen. Kirby said he didn't really know how good it was until the Clemson game. JT's injury changed the philosophy.

Maybe Spurrier and Bowden's team were dominant on both sides a few years. USC and Carroll early part of this century? 2008 UF? Though offensively they were statistically stronger when their defense sucked the year before. Just hard to have both sides be elite, at least from a statistical standpoint.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 4:38 pm
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8997 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:40 pm to
Alabama's defense is better than Clemson's?

That's probably a minority take even on an Alabama message board.

Clemson likely has the second best defense in football this season. I'm not saying that because they handled us well. But considering the pressure the offense has put on their shoulders, they've held up extremely well.

They are fourth in the country in defensive yards per play.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 4:42 pm
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:43 pm to
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McElroy talked about this on his radio show, that you really have to choose what you're gonna center your team around and the other side of the ball is gonna be downgraded. I'm not sure why it's so, as he didn't go into details. But that's certainly what it looks like.




Just me spit balling, but I'd guess it might have to do with keeping your defense fresh and at the top of their game.

If you have 2019 LSU's offense going out there and scoring a touchdown every 4-5 plays, then your defense is never going to get adequate time on the sideline to rest, recover, and get some brief coaching adjustments.

No defense can ever outplay exhaustion and the other team at the same time.

The Dawgs are at their best when the defense does their job of limiting their time on the field by getting 3 and outs, while on the other side the offense does its job by allowing the defense to have a chance at resting on the sideline for a good chunk of the game with more methodical drives.
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:47 pm to
Score more points than them, nailed it.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25875 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:47 pm to
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They are ranked higher than Clemson. Did you watch them against Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Tennessee, 3 of top 5 offenses in the SEC?

Held #1 SEC offense Ole Miss to less than 300 yards.

Held Mike leach MSU to less than 300 yards

Held Tennessee to 2/13 3rd down conversion and only 10 1st downs all game. Much better defensively vs UT than UGA.


You know UGA has the #3 rush defense in the country, well Alabama is # 4 .

Clemson and UGA are tied with 43 sacks on the year, 4th nationally guess who is # 3 ? Bama that's who. Guess who leads the nation in sacks? Will Anderson.

You should watch more football.


UGA has an elite defense, but not other worldly. Bama is still 2 scores better.

BAMA IS THE ABSOLUTE BESTEST AT EVERYTHING
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:54 pm to
Just go through his post history


He's so desperate to prove he's right and has some sacred knowledge about Georgia vs. Alabama.


Won't see that frickface here on Sunday.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3623 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 5:08 pm to
Until ESPN finds a cure for Georgia trotting out three defensive tackles that completely negate Alabama's five offensive linemen ... it's just like every other thing the four letter network says. Total self serving horse shite.

Georgia's front three on defense cancel out Alabama's five linemen. And that's pretty much game over.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 5:53 pm to
What I was thinking, at least generally. Thanks for the clarification.

It says a lot since they are so young. This weekend would not be a good time for them to gell. (Jell?) Whatever. It wouldn't be a good time for all the pieces to fall in place.
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