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re: ESPN Finds Blueprint for Beating Georgia?

Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:50 pm to
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Bama shut down the #5 Offense and Matt Corral holding them to less than 300 total yards.




So you want to pick one game and base your opinion on thta one game?

How did their defense do against:
Florida
Texas A&M
Tennessee
Arkansas

They have a good defense, but it isn't great.....like their offense. Last year the offense was great///stratospheric I might say.

If you think this Alabama team fits with the great ones then you haven't watched them play.

Don't get me wrong. they might very well beat us Saturday, but it isn't because their offense is as good as Ole Miss' and their defense is as good as Clemson's.


I have to ask this.


What is your prediction for Saturday's game? If your opinion of Alabama is THAT high then I would think Alabama by 3 TDs, at least, right?
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46462 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:52 pm to
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Stop the run and make the game manager QB beat you on defense

Problem is the game manager has wheels and an OC that knows how to create space in the defense with a lot of weapons. Bennett isn’t any great shakes physically but he doesn’t have to be. Teams tend to load the box because the alternative is what Arkansas tried (drop 8) and we ran them to death to the tune of 37 points. And “stop the run” is more like “stop the run for 3ish quarters.” We have so many backs to rotate in that we are going to lean on you eventually. So, yeah, bit of an oversimplification.

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on offense, sling it around and hope you hit enough big plays to outscore them

It may hit once or twice but what this defense excels at (among many things) is adjusting on the fly. Teams tend to move the ball well on their opening, scripted drives but as soon as the defense gets a sense for what you’re throwing at them and how it matches what they’ve seen on film it’s damn near game over (case in point: our games with Tennessee, Auburn, and Kentucky).

This team is the damndest thing I’ve ever seen. The parts are really good, don’t get me wrong, but given the injuries, transfers out, and Stetson at QB, the sum should not be this great. That it is so great is testament to the coaching job and the veteran intelligence/leadership and there’s nothing an opposing team can do to really negate that. You just have to kind of hope you run into enough pitches to get by it.

I’m just glad it’s us for once.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:00 pm
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17227 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:52 pm to
I'm sure Nick Saban is happy for ESPN's assist in his game prep. Bravo.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32845 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:55 pm to
Finishing off the thought with, "In other words, Georgia is likely to struggle more against a great defense than a great offense."
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46462 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:58 pm to
That’s probably a fair sentiment. Problem with the premise is our offense plays the best defense in the country (and in at least a decade) everyday in practice. There isn’t a defense out there that is going to present something our offense hasn’t seen before
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25590 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:01 pm to
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Stop the run and make the game manager QB beat you on defense, and on offense, sling it around and hope you hit enough big plays to outscore them? Obviously an oversimplification, but I’ve been curious about the opposing perspective from UGA’s side.


You dont stop the run by throwing numbers at the line of scrimmage.

If you want to beat uga, your defensive front 4 has to control the line of scrimmage. Clemson did it until depth issues surfaced. Florida had success for almost a half. The UGA running game can be contained in the trenches.

If that happens, then you play shell coverage behind it (clemson did this). Bend but dont break. And win the battles in the redzone.

Force uga's offense to be perfect marching down long, plodding drives.

People do not understand how explosive we are passing when given man coverage matchups.
2nd fewest pass attempts in conference.
3rd most pass plays 25+ yards.
Best ypa passing in conference.
40 ppg but only throwing 30 times in the 4th quarter all season (all QBs).
Posted by ClemsonRules
Virginia
Member since Jan 2017
2608 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:03 pm to
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Their defense isn't awful


I watched the Arkansas and aTm games and their defense was awful…I’m sure they were impressive vs Mercer and NM St
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59747 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:06 pm to
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Force uga's offense to be perfect marching down long, plodding drives.

People do not understand how explosive we are passing when given man coverage matchups.

Truth. To this point in the season, the worst thing an opposing DC can do is sell out to stop the run. That's how we found out that Bowers, McConkey and some of the others were such potent downfield weapons.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46462 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:08 pm to
Their defense isn’t great. It’s got good individual players and often plays sound concepts. But their LBs and Safeties are easily confused and overmatched with pre snap motion and audibles. Their DL is ok but not a strength; Turner and Anderson are great young players but Turner is just that and Anderson is being forced to play at a position he is undersized for (DE). That doesnt make it awful as a unit, it’s just vulnerable and has had those vulnerabilities exposed over 12 games.

By comparison, the offense is also not great (lacking a dominant OL and run game) but it’s been good enough to win them 11 games.
Posted by GaBassFisher92
Dublin, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
3145 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:16 pm to
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If you want to beat uga, your defensive front 4 has to control the line of scrimmage. Clemson did it until depth issues surfaced. Florida had success for almost a half. The UGA running game can be contained in the trenches.


Yeah, we really haven't been dominant running the ball and we don't have a future NFL RB1 in the backfield like in the past, but we've been so consistent out pounding out 4-5 yards a carry that it starts wearing teams down.

Clemson knew what was coming every play on the final drive and still couldn't stop us because we wore them down over 4 quarters. We would've easily scored another TD on that final drive had we not taken a knee. It was like night and day compared to earlier in the game.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:17 pm to
Alabama is not man enough to beat Georgia
Posted by panhandlebama
Member since Oct 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:18 pm to
Forward to Nick.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5107 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:20 pm to
Oh the melt coming Saturday night will be sooooooo glorious
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:27 pm to
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What is the best QB UGA has faced all year? UT QB Hooker?


Young isn't much of an upgrade over Hooker despite being a better pro prospect. They're actually pretty on par. Check the stats and the QBR ratings. That said, BAMA has more players on offense and more importantly they don't lack depth and they won't have starting playmakers out.

BAMA also has a much better defense. But again - it's depth, depth, depth. Tennessee never had a chance despite having a great first string O in key spots and we all knew it. We also had a spotty OL and RB1 out. Too thin. BAMA does not have that issue.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9338 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:27 pm to
Wait for Georgia to Georgia?
Posted by BrotherDawg84
Member since Dec 2020
3103 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:27 pm to
I have a blueprint for a 10,000 sq ft home on Paces Ferry.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8999 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:29 pm to
I think any analysis that is heavily based on the Clemson game or using the Clemson game with another couple of games is probably flawed.

Teams can improve over the course of the year.

That said, this is the best defense we will have faced since Clemson both in talent and in stats.

Georgia wants to establish the run and Bama has been rather stingy vs. the run in the last month. That could be a problem.

There is a gap between Clemson and the second best defense UGA has faced to this point. Where does this Bama D fall in that gap?

Is it close enough to Clemson's to be a major problem. Is it closer to Florida, Kentucky, S. Carolina or whoever is the second best? Other than Clemson and arguably Florida, no real struggles.

I don't think Georgia has to run the ball extremely well. They will have to run it well enough to make Bama respect it. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 3.75 to 4.0 yards per carry could do it.

Bennett is the primary reason we lost the game last year. Many of the mistakes he made in that game he seems to have corrected this year. Will the moment be too big for him again?

The problems with Bama's Oline are not gonna be fixed over night to allow them to hold up well Saturday. Can they scheme around that enough to score enough points to win?

Bama hasn't been able to run the ball well for weeks now. The idea that they will be able to in this game with the injuries and against a front that no one has really ran it well against all year except maybe Florida is far fetched.

Some of our fans are scared due to the past. But the Georgia players and coaching staff have wanted this game. "You're either elite or you're not" is something they have really bought into.

In last year's game, Monken had WRs and TEs open all game. Yes, even in the second half. Barmore caused some problems when UGA had to go more pass heavy to try and catch up. Bama has no one like Barmore on the interior this year. Stetson overthrew and underthrew WRs who could have taken it to the house. He also would lock on to WRs and throw into coverage and completely miss wide open guys on other areas of the field. That hasn't happened as much this year. He's definitely better. Is it enough?

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:31 pm to
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I watched the Arkansas and aTm games and their defense was awful…I’m sure they were impressive vs Mercer and NM St




Well, I mean you are doing the same thing a lot of people do. You form opinions based upon one or two games. If we hand picked 1 or 2 select games of Clemson's how would that work out for you?

Saaaay, NC State and Pittsburgh? What would your opinion be? And don't come back with "NC State and Pitt were pretty good teams!" because Arkansas and Texas A&M were pretty good teams, too.
Posted by Stygian
Member since Nov 2019
4 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:39 pm to
ESPN cracked the code. Get a time machine so you can face the offense UGA had 3 months ago.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:44 pm to
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Their defense isn't awful. It's not as strong as it has been in the past. last year it wasn't, either, but they had a great offense.


At it's best, which it's been for 75% of the year, this is our best defense since 2017.

It's also still inconsistent at times against the pass mostly due to busts at Safety, which led to the A&M game and the 2nd half against Arkansas.

It's the best, most dominate run defense we've had in 5-6 years. That's pretty much been consistent all year
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:50 pm
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