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Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:31 am to Adam Banks
So in response to someone calling your schtick lazy and tired, you reply with something that has literally been posted 50 times.
You’re a superstar, dude.
You’re a superstar, dude.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:32 am to kywildcatfanone
quote:Agents take AD to the cleaners, perception of market ("All other AD's do this"), Recruiting.
Don't understand why schools give extensions to coaches about every year.
Dumb, but that's why
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:35 am to Adam Banks
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Id be curious to see coaching salaries scaled for inflation and salaries in other sectors. When LSU signed Saban for just over 1 million it was scoffed at and shocking. Coordinators are making that now.
After the 2003 title, it was in Saban's contract he'd be the highest paid coach in the country. That number was around 2.3 million IIRC. Coaches are making as much as 4 times that much in just a little over 15 years since then. Even scaled to inflation, they're way out of control
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 11:37 am
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:35 am to aggressor
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Sumlin had a great start and a disappointing 2nd year followed by the disaster of chasing off 2 NFL QB's, including one who was a Legacy, won a Heisman, and was an overall #1 Draft Pick. He recruited well but not elite.
Jimbo has been building year by year and the improvements are bearing fruit. Top 5 Finish and NY6 win with recruiting reaching new heights, possibly Top 3 this year.
Not that you care about an objective answer.
Sumlin brought in the #9, #5, and #11 classes in the country following the 2012 season. You are doing the exact same thing you did then, now. Pointless to give a guy an extension because he beat up on a schedule that had a combined record of 39-56 (minus Bama) on his way to beating an 8-4 North Carolina in the Orange Bowl.
He had 6-7 years left on his contract right? What was the point?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:36 am to PHLaggie
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The current contract is so reckless (the headline $75 million over 10 years itself was attention grabber) that supposedly it doesn't have any buyouts. LSU or anyone else could theoretically seek out Jimbo and he could walk away without any financial pain.
The biggest contracts usually only protect the coach, that's kind of the risk that comes with them. Saban has never had a buyout on his end for walking away either at LSU or Alabama
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:38 am to WhosYourDaddy
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Sumlin brought in the #9, #5, and #11 classes in the country following the 2012 season. You are doing the exact same thing you did then, now. Pointless to give a guy an extension because he beat up on a schedule that had a combined record of 39-56 (minus Bama) on his way to beating an 8-4 North Carolina in the Orange Bowl.
I’m not on board with the Jimbo extension right now, but comparing Sumlin to Jimbo doesn’t exactly give you a lot of credibility for any other points you are trying to make. HTH.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 11:42 am
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:41 am to WilliamTaylor21
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Tom Herman at Texas (4 Years):
- Record: 32-18
- Bowl Record: 4-0
- NY6 Bowl Record: 1-0
- Top 25 finishes: 3
- Top 10 finishes: 1
this cost Texas $9.8mil per year ($2m buyout to UH, $22mil of salary, and $15mil to fire him/4 seasons).
and of course you leave out the most obvious facts - Big XII vs SEC, and the trajectory of the programs.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:42 am to Farmer1906
I get that he has been improving the program each year but nothing he has done at A&M to this point in time can justify $9m/yr.
How long do y'all keep paying him for that natty at FSU 8 years ago?
How long do y'all keep paying him for that natty at FSU 8 years ago?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:43 am to Bobbum Man
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I’m not on board with the Jimbo extension right now, but comparing Sumlin to Jimbo doesn’t exactly give you a lot of credibility for any other points you are trying to make. HTH.
The comparison is very relevant because the narrative was the same at the time each got their extension. Only difference is with Sumlin you have hindsight, with Jimbo you are looking ahead into the unknown.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:46 am to WhosYourDaddy
Yeah, totally the only differences. You know, except for:
1. Sumlin got worse with every consecutive year he was year, the opposite of Jimbo’s trajectory.
2. Sumlin inherited a guy named Manziel and a top 5 O-line in the country, neither of which he had a thing to do with recruiting or coaching.
But yeah, other than that it’s totally comparable.
Hell, you don’t need to take my word for it. If Sumlin and Jimbo are so objectively comparable, where is Sumlin coaching now??
Exactly.
1. Sumlin got worse with every consecutive year he was year, the opposite of Jimbo’s trajectory.
2. Sumlin inherited a guy named Manziel and a top 5 O-line in the country, neither of which he had a thing to do with recruiting or coaching.
But yeah, other than that it’s totally comparable.
Hell, you don’t need to take my word for it. If Sumlin and Jimbo are so objectively comparable, where is Sumlin coaching now??
Exactly.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 11:57 am
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:55 am to Farmer1906
Good for A&M. They have the Coach they want and he’s improving their program.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:56 am to Bobbum Man
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Sumlin was Big 12, Jimbo is SEC.
Huh?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:56 am to Bobbum Man
Offseason & coaching contract champions of the world!
Hang the banners boys. You've only got 3 days left before you'll have to actually play football and prove something this season.
Hang the banners boys. You've only got 3 days left before you'll have to actually play football and prove something this season.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:56 am to Bobbum Man
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Yeah, totally the only differences. You know, except for:
1. Sumlin got worse with every consecutive year he was year, the opposite of Jimbo’s trajectory.
2. Sumlin inherited a guy named Manziel and a top 5 I-line in the country, neither of which he had a thing to do with recruiting or coaching.
3. Sumlin was Big 12, Fischer is SEC.
But yeah, other than that it’s totally comparable.
Sumlin never coached in the Big 12… When did you start following A&M football? Or are you a troll?
Sumlin got a raise after his first year going 11-2, beating #1 Alabama and kicking the shite out of OU in the Cotton Bowl finishing 5th in the AP poll. What he did that year was much more impressive than what Jimbo did last year and you just gave Jimbo a Saban like extension.
Again the narratives around Sumlin at the time he got his extension was the same as the narrative around Jimbo now. Quit being a dunce and using hindsight. Thank you for telling us the breaking news that we already all knew which is that Sumlin flamed out.
Going into Sumlin’s first year and A&M’s first in the SEC, he inherited a 3 star Johnny Manziel and a 3 star Mike Evans and walked into Tuscaloosa and beat Bama lol… You idiots act like Mike Sherman, who went 25-25 in his 4 years, left Sumlin a juggernaut…
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 11:58 am
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:57 am to WhosYourDaddy
Sumlin was the OC for A&M and OU. What conference do they play in?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:58 am to SidewalkTiger
My mistake, need my second cup of coffee. Probably a Freudian slip because he sure as hell coaches like he was in the Big 12. Only half joking, the majority of his previous experience was Big 12.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 11:59 am
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:59 am to MAROON
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this cost Texas $9.8mil per year ($2m buyout to UH, $22mil of salary, and $15mil to fire him/4 seasons).
and of course you leave out the most obvious facts - Big XII vs SEC, and the trajectory of the programs.
No to mention 26-10 is much better than 32-18. Not sure why those are even being compared, 64% vs 72% with the 72 against much tougher competition.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:00 pm to WhosYourDaddy
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Sumlin got a raise after his first year going 11-2, beating #1 Alabama and kicking the shite out of OU in the Cotton Bowl finishing 5th in the AP poll. What he did that year was much more impressive than what Jimbo did last year and you just gave Jimbo a Saban like extension.
If Sumlin did that and not Johnny, why is Sumlin currently unemployed? Why was his first job after getting shite-canned by us freaking Arizona?
Funny how you can’t answer that. The coaching market speaks louder than words.
It’s okay to admit Jimbo is a much better coach than Sumlin. The sun will still rise tomorrow.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:02 pm to WhosYourDaddy
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Going into Sumlin’s first year and A&M’s first in the SEC, he inherited a 3 star Johnny Manziel and a 3 star Mike Evans and walked into Tuscaloosa and beat Bama lol… You idiots act like Mike Sherman, who went 25-25 in his 4 years, left Sumlin a juggernaut…
Oh, so now Sumlin made Johnny and Evans?
Jesus Christ dude, you don’t have to keep digging this hole. You can take off the orange colored glasses for 5 seconds. Or maybe you can’t?
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 12:06 pm
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