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re: Does the number of championships make one program more “elite” than others?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:55 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:55 pm to DawgsLife
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Then you have a problem with the NCAA because the polls were legit enough for them to recognize it.
Okay so then Auburn has like 9 titles or so, you okay with that?
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My hypothetical has everything to do with actual history.
no it doesnt because you are asking about something that did not happen, not actual history, like if if UGA was awarded a title in 1942
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You know it, and that is why you don't want to answer the question.
Again, you are doing everything to not talk about actual history 
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:55 pm to DawgsLife
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True. how does that contradict anything I said?
It doesn't, and the fact that the AP poll was one dude for 2 seasons in the 30s has nothing to do with whatever point I think you were trying to make.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:56 pm to NYCAuburn
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Was it in 1942? Do you know what a red herring is?
Maybe you should reread my post? The answer is in there.
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and there it is....
Yes. There it is. Legit title? What is more legit? A title recognized by the NCAA that would be legit today? or a title that used paid players and the team was banned from playing in a bowl game because of their actions?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:57 pm to NocaHomas Teepee
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It doesn't, and the fact that the AP poll was one dude for 2 seasons in the 30s has nothing to do with whatever point I think you were trying to make.
The point was that he said the AP was recognized as a legit poll. Yes, it is. But it wasn't always. It really came into more prominence much later.
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Clarification....it was legit when they named Auburn as champions. My main point is if Auburn had been caught paying players today, they would not have been eligible to qualify for a conference title or a National Title.
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More clarification...I have no problem really with Auburn claiming 1957 as a title. My main complaint is if an Auburn poster wants to point fingers at a title Georgia claims then be prepared because fingers can be pointed back at Auburn.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:57 pm to AshleySchaeffer
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fibonaccisquared looking like a snack right now
Yikes, where'd you find my myspace page bro?
Seriously, is this what passes for humor from Gators?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:00 pm to DawgsLife
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The point was that he said the AP was recognized as a legit poll. Yes, it is. But it wasn't always. It really came into more prominence much later.
What year are you suggesting this occurred? You can ball park it if you don't know the exact year.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:00 pm to NYCAuburn
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Okay so then Auburn has like 9 titles or so, you okay with that?
Actually I happen to have the link. It shows Auburn with 5, I think, and it shows Georgia with 6....which is why I prefer to just go with the titles the schools claim.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:01 pm to DawgsLife
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Maybe you should reread my post? The answer is in there.
No its not. But keep throwing so more red herrings in there that mean nothing to the topic. Turtles are cool as well
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Yes. There it is.
Yes there it is, you cant help but be bitter
quote:Is Auburn's 1957 title recognized by the NCAA? again your derailing questions mean nothing
A title recognized by the NCAA that would be legit today?
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or a title that used paid players and the team was banned from playing in a bowl game because of their actions?
You might want to look up how things work...
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:02 pm to NYCAuburn
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Oregon football pretty much started in the late 90s
Rich Brooks brought them around; Mike Belloti really kicked them into gear and then Kelly had them running at elite status.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:02 pm to NocaHomas Teepee
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What year are you suggesting this occurred? You can ball park it if you don't know the exact year.
Not going to ballpark, because most of the time it happens gradually over a number of years. It's rarely a poll is not legit one year and all of a sudden it is legit.
But again...it was considered legit when it awarded Auburn their title.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:03 pm to DawgsLife
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The point was that he said the AP was recognized as a legit poll. Yes, it is. But it wasn't always. It really came into more prominence much later.
It was prominent during the time we are talking about, which is why your comment does nothing to the debate but try to derail it.
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More clarification...I have no problem really with Auburn claiming 1957 as a title. My main complaint is if an Auburn poster wants to point fingers at a title Georgia claims then be prepared because fingers can be pointed back at Auburn.
Auburn claims a widely know poll at the time and now, UGA claims the opposite of a retro active poll
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:03 pm to DawgsLife
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But again...it was considered legit when it awarded Auburn their title.
and in 1942
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:04 pm to RhodeDawg
This isn't a thread about Georgia, cleetus.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:04 pm to NYCAuburn
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No its not. But keep throwing so more red herrings in there that mean nothing to the topic. Turtles are cool as well
Yes it is. I clearly have said twice that it was considered a legit poll when Auburn was recognized. Try reading again.
quote:Why would I be bitter?
Yes there it is, you cant help but be bitter
quote:Yes, it is. I never said it wasn't.
Is Auburn's 1957 title recognized by the NCAA? again your derailing questions mean nothing
Is Georgia's 1942 title recognized by the NCAA?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:05 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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This isn't a thread about Georgia, cleetus.
You seem to be making it about Georgia. Cleetus.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:06 pm to NYCAuburn
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But again...it was considered legit when it awarded Auburn their title.
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and in 1942
I'm slow. I'm not sure of your point?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:06 pm to DawgsLife
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Yes it is. I clearly have said twice that it was considered a legit poll when Auburn was recognized. Try reading again.
Again, we are talking about 1942 UGA and the AP. its amazing how off track you are going...
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Yes, it is. I never said it wasn't.
So your question posed means nothing as they are both yes for Auburn's
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Is Georgia's 1942 title recognized by the NCAA?
Was UGA's title an AP title? or a widely recognized title then or now?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:07 pm to NYCAuburn
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Auburn claims a widely know poll at the time and now, UGA claims the opposite of a retro active poll
Georgia was named champion by more polls in 1942 than any other team in the nation. Polls that were recognized at the time.
Some other polls recognized us later, true, but it doesn't change the fact that at the time more polls recognized Georgia at the time.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:07 pm to DawgsLife
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My main complaint is if an Auburn poster wants to point fingers at a title Georgia claims then be prepared because fingers can be pointed back at Auburn.
All retroactive titles are bullshite.
Every.
Single.
One.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:07 pm to DawgsLife
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I'm slow. I'm not sure of your point?
You down playing the AP then going off another tangent. Your argument is flawed
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