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Do you believe your rival blatantly cheats/pays players?
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:52 pm
Seems to be that you frequently hear on here about how your rival paying for player's iphones, giving them hummers/chargers/mercedes, paying them up to $180,000 and hiring hostesses as prostitutes.
Do you buy it? Do you believe it is widespread or that this group of believers is nuts?
I believe that nearly every major program provides impermissible benefits to a large number of students athletes. I also believe that the majority of those benefits are to cover cost of living not covered by scholarship.
I also believe that there are rogue/non AD affiliated boosters like that Devin Shapiro guy from UM that pay/treat athletes like a celebrity but it comes from the territory. People like hanging around these kids whether the athletic department allows it or not
Do you buy it? Do you believe it is widespread or that this group of believers is nuts?
I believe that nearly every major program provides impermissible benefits to a large number of students athletes. I also believe that the majority of those benefits are to cover cost of living not covered by scholarship.
I also believe that there are rogue/non AD affiliated boosters like that Devin Shapiro guy from UM that pay/treat athletes like a celebrity but it comes from the territory. People like hanging around these kids whether the athletic department allows it or not
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 12:09 am
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:53 pm to GenesChin
Yes, we do it, you do it. Everyone does to an extent.
Edit: The point is to not make it blatant.
Edit: The point is to not make it blatant.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:56 pm to GenesChin
If you ain't cheating you ain't trying!
Auburn tries a lot though
Auburn tries a lot though
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:59 pm to 2close2Gainesville
I think UF runs a pretty clean program.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:00 am to GenesChin
I think every big time program pays star players/prospects through backchannels.
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 12:01 am
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:00 am to GenesChin
I feel like the cheating is much more mild than people think.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:01 am to GenesChin
We do it but Auburn and Florida do it more.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:03 am to reel_gator8
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I think UF runs a pretty clean program.
And the Civil War was just a slight rebellion
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:06 am to GenesChin
I think there are degrees of cheating that happen at every SEC school. Some do it more than others. I think it also varies depending on the status of the program. For example, I think some of the schools who are trying to build/rebuild a program probably do it more because they have a lot less to risk. The thinking behind it is "If I'm caught, what can the NCAA do to me that my program hasn't already done to itself?"
That being said, I don't think it is near as blatant as some have said. I don't think every recruit who goes to ____ gets a new car. They might get some hundred dollar handshakes. The coaches might also stretch the contact rules for recruiting in a "better to ask forgiveness than permission" way.
That being said, I don't think it is near as blatant as some have said. I don't think every recruit who goes to ____ gets a new car. They might get some hundred dollar handshakes. The coaches might also stretch the contact rules for recruiting in a "better to ask forgiveness than permission" way.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:06 am to GenesChin
We all do it.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:11 am to chattabama
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I don't think it is near as blatant as some have said. I don't think every recruit who goes to ____ gets a new car
I heard from someone in our AD who has colleagues at Bama that a huge part of Saban's job is keeping his star players away from situations like TTowns Menswear.
Point essentially was that what kid is going to turn down money/car whatever it is and these boosters will do it just to get access. Completely independent of the AD and nothing Saban or Malzahn or anyone can do
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:16 am to GenesChin
I believe they try but if they so much as buy a kid a pizza they self report it and get themselves put on probation.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:18 am to Henry Jones Jr
Cam Newton had to take a pay cut when he went to the NFL.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:20 am to GenesChin
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I heard from someone in our AD who has colleagues at Bama that a huge part of Saban's job is keeping his star players away from situations like TTowns Menswear.
You mean a compliance department?
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:21 am to GenesChin
Cheating happens at all schools to some degree. Now that I am in big 12 country if find it interesting how much time they spend on talking about the SEC cheating. 
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:28 am to DirtyDawg
If you're gonna cheat why half arse cheat?
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:36 am to GenesChin
There are no way super freaks like Scam, Autograph Manziel, and soon to be stars like Derrick Henry don't get paid.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:37 am to FourThreeForty
If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:56 am to DoUrden
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Cheating happens at all schools to some degree. Now that I am in big 12 country if find it interesting how much time they spend on talking about the SEC cheating.
I noticed that when I moved to B12 country as well. The rest of the country is obsessed but when I think of the worst cheaters in CFB I think of some Texas schools, not SEC.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 12:58 am to GenesChin
We have a lot of rivals, so yes and no.
If you didn't include the "blatantly" then it is a blanket yes for every single team in at least the BCS.
If you didn't include the "blatantly" then it is a blanket yes for every single team in at least the BCS.
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 12:58 am
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