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re: Do Nico and his Dad have an actual plan?

Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:24 pm to
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Did they think the spring game is a real game? Maybe they should have done this before the playoff game instead.


Josh Pate said Nico and others did threaten to sit out playoff games last year.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:33 pm to
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Josh Pate said Nico and others did threaten to sit out playoff games last year.


Did he name him? We heard rumors that a team was having issues but the team was never named. In retrospect it makes sense as we know they tried negotiate in December and we also know that it wasn’t just football that was fed up. The admin was tired of the games.

It took less than 18 hours to remove any semblance of Nico from UT prior to the Spring Game and I’m talking about everything from pictures, posters, stuff at Neyland to video editing. THAT is an “I am so damned tired of your shite” response that it’s equivalent to your spouse packing up every bit of your belongings and paying to have it dropped off at your mom’s house. Oh and btw, the locks have been changed and I have a new number
This post was edited on 4/13/25 at 11:18 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:35 pm to
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Did he name him?


Yes

Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44856 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:36 pm to
Damn. And Ty for the link

ETA. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Pate this mad
This post was edited on 4/13/25 at 10:42 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61686 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:51 pm to
He's right, you can't change everything about college football and just assume the fans will stick around.

NASCAR made a similar mistake.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/13/25 at 11:24 pm to
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Word is he was difficult at TN. Wouldn’t fulfill his NIL requirements by showing up for signings and other requirements.


This could affect his earnings. And an unsophisticated person might believe they’re being ripped off if they don’t make the contracted amount because they didn’t fulfill their end of the contract.
Posted by Whodat4300
Tennessee
Member since Jul 2020
988 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 11:26 pm to
I just figured they threw that number out there as that’s what Beck got to go to the Canes.
Posted by Whodat4300
Tennessee
Member since Jul 2020
988 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 11:29 pm to
Holy smokes! Is this why Sampson didn’t play against the Buckeyes? Wow! I’ll watch that Pate video and ty.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 4/13/25 at 11:34 pm to
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Guarnteed that Ohio State won't touch him with a 10 foot pole.



I don't think anyone can now. We're not exactly dealing with Cam Newton here in terms of ability.

Why in the world would anyone sign, much less pay a guy who may or may not be 'just okay' while also proving himself as being the worst kind of athlete to deal with?

I would imagine there's probably a gentlemen's agreement behind the scenes not to take him
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44856 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 11:43 pm to
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Holy smokes! Is this why Sampson didn’t play against the Buckeyes? Wow! I’ll watch that Pate video and ty.


I think Sampson was genuinely dinged up but I have to wonder if Nico being a diva didn’t contribute to two different helmets getting cracked that game. How hard are you going or block for a guy who was risking a playoff you busted your arse for?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61686 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 12:12 am to
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I think Sampson was genuinely dinged up but I have to wonder if Nico being a diva didn’t contribute to two different helmets getting cracked that game. How hard are you going or block for a guy who was risking a playoff you busted your arse for?


These coaches just need to send any players that threaten these types of things during the season on their way.

I get it maybe after the games are over but not while your season is actively ongoing, especially if you have a chance to win a title.

You're probably better off with a lesser talent that wants to be there at that point.

Posted by Whodat4300
Tennessee
Member since Jul 2020
988 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:30 am to
That’s a good point. Would make sense as to why they looked so flat and uninterested.
Posted by ouflak
Manchester, England
Member since Jul 2021
502 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:52 am to
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I would imagine there's probably a gentlemen's agreement behind the scenes not to take him


I seriously doubt that. There's just no need. His chances of having to possibly sit out the next season are uncomfortably high enough as it is, no tampering or 'gentlemen's agreements' required. In fact, I think everybody will be interested in seeing how this all plays out without any interference, just to get a feel for the market and what it can/will really sustain.

If I was Tennessee, I would just move on. No trash talking, no more statements on the subject, no backdoor sabotage, nothing. Just move on.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 1:52 am
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1204 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:07 am to
I do not blame these young men who think, if I can get it now, I am going to try and get all I can, I might have a car wreck or blow a knee out and never get an NFL Check.

I blame the Courts and the Lawyers who crooked the system by judge shopping, don't kid yourself, these judges are for sale, they o not care about justice. These same federal judges approved spying on a President.

I also blame the NCAA, they had to be in cahoots, there was an EASY OUT. All they had to do was tell the courts and the lawyers filing suits, Don't worry about it, from this point on, anyone playing sports will have to pay their own way to college, thee will be no scholarships from this point on.

In 5 minutes all suits would have been dropped because these libs do not want to be seen as the people who caused many minorities to lose scholarships. Any Jr. Law partner could have gamed this out, that proves the NCAA was in cahoots with these lawyers.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3732 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:52 am to
Oh NASCAR's moves were absolutely deliberate. They wanted to get rid of the lower to middle class primarily Southern and Midwestern and white, conservative and religious people who were the sport's base for generations because they didn't want that kind around their product anymore because they made the decision that they couldn't achieve their ultimate goal ... become a co-equal major league sport to the NFL, MLB, NBA, etc., I actually had a NASCAR PR person tell me in the press box at Talladega 30 years ago that was their goal, they didn't just want to be a mere racing series ... by hitching their shingle to that demographic.

Posted by Luca_Brasi
America
Member since Jun 2020
86 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:58 am to
Maybe one of our fellow Rebs can chime in. Did Judkins end up earning less from Ohio St. than he would have in Oxford?

To me his story is different in that Ole Miss gave him a shot when he was a little known 3 star prospect. Granted his recruitment heated up as his senior season went on, but it highlights the lack of loyalty or admiration guys have for their school. Imagine Patrick Willis walking away from Ole Miss after them being his only major offer, or a guy like Gabe Jackson whose only offer other than State was Southern Miss. Those guys made tens of millions because of the opportunity their schools gave them. That’s not to discount their talent and hard work, but to bring into the discussion a lot of these guys are concerned with one thing and one thing only.

As has been stated many times over; this mindset will be a death knell for a school like State where we have to have guys who love the school to some degree. More times than not there will be a higher bid if they show their talent, and in this landscape they will walk even after State was their only SEC offer and put them on that stage in the first place.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
2262 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:03 am to
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Did Judkins end up earning less from Ohio St. than he would have in Oxford?


He did, OSU only paid him like 500k IIRC. He thought he had a bigger market than reality
Posted by Nomadic Bengal
Member since Jul 2022
2650 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:18 am to
Big win for the sport at large.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
7041 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:21 am to
Nico failed The Art of the Deal
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
72708 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:24 am to
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Maybe one of our fellow Rebs can chime in. Did Judkins end up earning less from Ohio St. than he would have in Oxford?
Yeah. Almost half. Before the Egg Bowl we had agreed to give him $900,000 for 2024. Then after he saw Dart got over a million he came back before the Peach Bowl threatening to sit out if we didn’t pay him more. Don’t know what they said/did to get him to play but after the Peach Bowl Kiffin told him to go elsewhere.

He only got around $500,000 from OSU I believe.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 9:24 am
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