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re: Do Navy football players have to make weight?

Posted on 12/14/19 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by trickydick12
college station
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 6:49 pm to
They have to pass all standards and training.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:01 pm to
The only regulation that addresses a distance is the APFT and it is a two mile requirement . Each qualification school might have a separate requirement . But that isn’t a regulation.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:02 pm to
I'm sure they get waivers. Like the body bearers.

Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:08 pm to
Everyone should be brought to the same standard. And it should be the highest damn standard.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:16 pm to
Different missions.
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:21 pm to
the Army has to have regulation uniforms to fit I don't know about the Navy
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:23 pm to
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Everyone should be brought to the same standard.

Unless you're a female, then it's okay to have much lower standards.
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:23 pm to
I'll do it all day long and I doubt you will whip anyone arse

Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Different missions.



I understand that. But we are talking about football here. The Navy Pogues have a competitive advantage. So if the discussion is leveling the playing field the Navy Pogues should be brought up to standard rather than the Army Badasses being brought down to standard.

Pretty simple, really. We are talking about our military.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:27 pm to
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The Navy Pogues

Just like the Army guys.
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:04 pm to
Ah, most of the lineman end up as Marine officers. I doubt being in shape is a problem.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:08 pm to
Make weight... no. But make tape... yes.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10081 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:27 pm to
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There’s no way some of those D lineman can get to regulation weight within 8months of this game. Is there just a waiver? If so, Army should do the same. The Army OL is giving up 75lbs per player to Navy.


This is becoming a concern of mine. Not just the weight, but the overall notion that the military rules don't apply to these guys. I'm not a fan of the new rule that allows them to skip out of their service obligation if the NFL comes calling. The whole reason they're supposed to be there is to train to be military officers. Football is a sideshow. If you're sacrificing that obligation to the football gods, then you're sacrificing the integrity of the academies.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:29 pm to
They already sacrificed their integrity when that shitbird Spencer Rapone was pushed through.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
72682 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:29 pm to
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They can get some kind of waiver I think, David Robinson did for his height


To my understanding, West Point is much more difficult in that regard
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

They can get some kind of waiver I think, David Robinson did for his height

To my understanding, West Point is much more difficult in that regard


Robinson got a waiver, but they stopped those after he couldn't fit in racks on ships. So he was allowed to finish his obligation in the Navy Reserves.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28232 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:36 pm to
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think, David Robinson did for his height


He was like 6"8 when he 1st signed

Don't believe he coulda been offered at his current height.
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:39 pm to
I’m not sure how they do it now but when I was in the Marines you could apply for a weight waiver. The Marines at that time determined your weight by the standard weight to height scale. This scale really sucked especially if you were a weight lifter like my buddies and I. At 5’ 10” my weight max was 189, with my weight lifting I easily hit 215-220. The weight waiver was there for guys like myself but you had to pass 3 different test. First was you had to have a first class PFT, second was a basic BMI by a navel doctor, third was a uniform fit by the commanding CO. You had to wear your different uniforms and he determined if you looked like you should in uniform in keeping of the highest standards of the Marines. If you passed all 3 you got the waiver.
What sucked was after we got back from the first Gulf War and had been home for @ 3 months they did away with all weight waivers. We had to now meet the original standards so lots of guys struggled to meet those standards. I have no idea how they do things now.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:41 pm to
I was in the Marines 03-07 and you'd tape out if you were over (I'm 6'0 and my max was 203). A male could be up to 22% body fat with a first class PFT.

Edit: They had gotten rid of the uniform thingy but they brought it back a few years later.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 8:44 pm
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:45 pm to
So they were using the same weight standards for you guys.
Thanks Devil Dog.
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