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re: Do Auburn coaches think TJ Finley > Bo Nix?
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
So SOG, where am I wrong with Jones TDs ?
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:51 pm to Irons Puppet
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So SOG, where am I wrong with Jones TDs ?
Let's go with how bout you show me where you are right with the Jones TDs?
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:53 pm to paperwasp
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Let me guess - Alabama's receivers were just running free all year and all Mac had to do was toss it up, right? Anybody could do it?
When any team played Bama man coverage, the WRs were running free all year. Steele never adjusted in 2019, enen with one of the best DLs in the country. AU had a safety on Waddle all game and he was able to get separation within two steps.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The fact that you think Bo Nix would have had no issue making all of these throws is........fascinating, I guess.
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:58 pm to Irons Puppet
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When any team played Bama man coverage, the WRs were running free all year
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Five yard out to Waddle. Decided pre-snap
Post with a Safety playing man coverage on Waddle without any over the top protection. Actually Jones underthrew the pass.
5 yard in that Waddle took 60 yards untouched by AUs D.
10 yard corner route that again was made pre-snap. I do not think Jones even saw the receiver broke open.
That was coaching.
Post with a Safety playing man coverage on Waddle without any over the top protection. Actually Jones underthrew the pass.
5 yard in that Waddle took 60 yards untouched by AUs D.
10 yard corner route that again was made pre-snap. I do not think Jones even saw the receiver broke open.
That was coaching.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:01 pm to XbengalTiger
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Nix will declare after this year
Declare for what?
Oh my !
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:02 pm to paperwasp
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When any team played Bama man coverage, the WRs were running free all year
I do not think many would argue with that point.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You said TDs. Again, coaching and great WRs. You going to show Nix's TDs and completions ?
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:03 pm to Irons Puppet
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I do not think Jones even saw the receiver broke open.
Yea, but that whole "throw to a spot on time and on target" thing isn't exactly Bo's forte........so......no, I do not think Bo could have easily made all of those throws.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yea, but that whole "throw to a spot on time and on target" thing isn't exactly Bo's forte........so......no, I do not think Bo could have easily made all of those throws.
He would have been used differently, but just as effective. Again, he wouldn't have throw the pick 6 on the goal line, because they would have passed the ball.
P.s Nix can make the backshoulder pass.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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The fact that you think Bo Nix would have had no issue making all of these throws is........fascinating, I guess
Only one of those clips does Mac have pressure. Look at how much time he has to throw. It's not something to be dismissed. Bama's o line was head and shoulders above everyone else. Mac had more time to sit back and throw more than any other qb playing college football. Could Nix have made all of those throws ? No one will ever know because he doesn't have Bama's o line.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:15 pm to Irons Puppet
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Nix can make the backshoulder pass.
He can do that, agreed
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:18 pm to kajunman
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Mac had more time to sit back and throw more than any other qb playing college football.
I understand what you're saying, but statistically Mac Jones was one of the highest rated QBs in the country under pressure last year.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:21 pm to paperwasp
quote:All 9 times he was pressured.
I understand what you're saying, but statistically Mac Jones was one of the highest rated QBs in the country under pressure last year.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:21 pm to kajunman
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Only one of those clips does Mac have pressure. Look at how much time he has to throw. It's not something to be dismissed. Bama's o line was head and shoulders above everyone else. Mac had more time to sit back and throw more than any other qb playing college football. Could Nix have made all of those throws ? No one will ever know because he doesn't have Bama's o line.
No, we already know
2019 - QB Rating Under Pressure
#5 - Mac Jones (114.6)
#80 - Bo Nix (62.6)
2020 - QB Rating Under Pressure
#1 - Mac Jones (123.9)
#87 - Bo Nix (37.2)
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:22 pm to kajunman
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All 9 times he was pressured.
Mac Jones
38/67 (56.7%)
663 Yards
9.9 YPA
8 TD
1 INT
123.9 QB Rating
Bo Nix
33/81 (40.7%)
382 Yards
4.7 YPA
0 TD
3 INT
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Now compare wr's and coaching.
No, we already know
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:24 pm to kajunman
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Now compare wr's and coaching.
Yea, good coaching develops raw talented 18 year olds into successful college football players. That's generally how it works. The streets are littered with the potential of 18 year old athletes who went to places with bad coaches who did not teach them how to play their positions properly. If 17 year old Bo Nix had come to Alabama and learned from Steve Sarkisian for 2 seasons would he have been more successful? Yea I think he probably would have. Would Mac Jones have developed into the pinpoint accurate QB who ended up being a 1st round pick if he'd gone to Auburn to play for Gus? Clearly not.
But I'm not sure what that has to do with how they'd perform in 2019 or 2020 if we picked them up and dropped them into the other huddle.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I agree. Check my post history about Jones, when everyone else thought it was gonna be Young. I held steadfast that Mac would be the guy. He's good.
Yea, good coaching develops raw talented 18 year olds into successful college football players. That's generally how it works.
That said he got the opportunity to play with the best talent in college ball. Best o line. Best wr group. Best rb group. Bama has it all. They will have the most talent again in 21. Young has everything he needs to succeed.
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