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Discussion Thread for McClover/Keys allegations and purported HBO story

Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:20 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:20 pm
Strictly rumor at this point, let's see if it develops. Again, not confirmed. Only rumor.

Word is that HBO's Real Sports is in a "finding out" period regarding a story about cheating in the SEC. Not skirting the rules, not coloring outside the lines, not violating the letter of the law . . . flat-out, blatant, worse-its-ever been cheating.

Specifically: former Auburn defensive end Stanley McClover allegedly has admitted that he received cash payments to attend Auburn and that the payments continued during his four years on the Plains.

Former LSU recruit and Alabama player Chris Keys is also allegedly willing to appear on Real Sports saying he received the same benefits as McClover.

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This post was edited on 2/22/11 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

flat-out, blatant, worse-its-ever been cheating.

frick Yeah.

"If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin."
Posted by 8miles
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:24 pm to
I told you we just cheat better than the rest of you.

This post was edited on 2/22/11 at 2:25 pm
Posted by AUCatfish
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:24 pm to
You mean there is cheating in college football????? I don't believe it....next someone will tell me is that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:24 pm to
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There are other names and other schools involved, but the entire story is SEC-based. Also, because all of the players who (potentially) are going on the record have been gone for at least five years, apparently the NCAA can't open an investigation into any of the alleged improper benefits the players say they received.


Posted by thatguyrightthere
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

There also could be a tape of Cecil Newton and Kenny Rogers that, if what Rogers is saying on it is true, could be very damaging to Mississippi State


Posted by LSU82BILL
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Former LSU recruit and Alabama player Chris Keys is also allegedly willing to appear on Real Sports saying he received the same benefits as McClover


I wonder what the point of calling an ex-Bama player a former LSU recruit is? If he was good enough to play in at Bama he was probably recruited by 20 or 30 big time programs.
Posted by memphisplaya
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:26 pm to
Be funny as he'll if vandy was caught cheating lol
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:26 pm to
10 pages
Posted by thatguyrightthere
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

I wonder what the point of calling an ex-Bama player a former LSU recruit is?

LSU got outbid
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:27 pm to
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Be funny as he'll if vandy was caught cheating lol


About as funny if our basketball team got caught cheating within the last couple years.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

There also could be a tape of Cecil Newton and Kenny Rogers that, if what Rogers is saying on it is true, could be very damaging to Mississippi State. The story could come undone if Rogers decides to not appear, which at this point is still to be determined.


Posted by TigerFanNKaty
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:27 pm to
This is really starting to be more like let's take down the SEC conspiracy. Where did Gumble go to school?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

I wonder what the point of calling an ex-Bama player a former LSU recruit is? If he was good enough to play in at Bama he was probably recruited by 20 or 30 big time programs.


He was committed to LSU before switching to Bama.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:28 pm to
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Good thing the 5 years is up.


The 5 year window can be expanded by the ncaa if a pattern of abuse is uncovered.

So don't think you are clear because the "statue of limitations" is up. This goes for anybody...

Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:30 pm to
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The 5 year window can be expanded by the ncaa if a pattern of abuse is uncovered.

So don't think you are clear because the "statue of limitations" is up. This goes for anybody...


For Bama's sake, they better hope not. They were on probation during Keys recruitment and are on probation now.
Posted by Crede15
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:30 pm to
Wasn't Keys the one who did something crazy like broke his leg or arm in a fight with somebody else on the team?
Posted by memphisplaya
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:30 pm to
Or tn baseball lol
Posted by bamaham
Nashville
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:30 pm to
Not saying AU or any other school has done anything wrong, but the NCAA SOLs are not concrete and they have exceptions built in:

quote:

32.6.3 Statute of Limitations. Allegations included in a notice of allegations shall be limited to possible
violations occurring not earlier than four years before the date the notice of inquiry is forwarded to the institution
or the date the institution notifies (or, if earlier, should have notified) the enforcement staff of its inquiries into
the matter. However, the following shall not be subject to the four-year limitation: (Revised: 10/12/94, 4/24/03)
(a) Allegations involving violations affecting the eligibility of a current student-athlete;
(b) Allegations in a case in which information is developed to indicate a pattern of willful violations on the part
of the institution or individual involved, which began before but continued into the four-year period; and
(c) Allegations that indicate a blatant disregard for the Association’s fundamental recruiting, extra-benefit, academic
or ethical-conduct regulations or that involve an effort to conceal the occurrence of the violation. In
such cases, the enforcement staff shall have a one-year period after the date information concerning the matter
becomes available to the NCAA to investigate and submit to the institution a notice of allegations concerning
the matter.


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